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Any cool drugs for a beginner? I was thinkin of mexican black tar heroin

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[–] scarcity_of_the_self@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Weed is the only good one. Mushrooms as a treat. Never smoke weed more than every 4 days or it starts to build up in you and stops being really fun or inspiring and just becomes a dissociative lifestyle.

Also don't smoke it if you literally do it every 4 days that barely makes the cutoff for villi to regenerate (3-4). Vape or eat it. Smoking anything makes you stink.

I tried the others they suck ass or are terrifying in various ways.

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Got it. Go ditectly to mexican black tar heroin.

[–] scarcity_of_the_self@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Vicodin and heroin are not fun. I was surprised. Neither is cocaine. Amphetamines are but this is where the "terrifying" part starts. Psychosis is fun until it isn't fun.

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[–] abc@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Never smoke weed more than every 4 days or it starts to build up in you and stops being really fun or inspiring and just becomes a dissociative lifestyle.

skill issue

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Can you explain what villi is/does and why letting it regenerate is important?

[–] scarcity_of_the_self@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Little fingers in your lungs which passively sweep out stuff that makes its way in. They will be immobile for several days after being stunned by smoke.

Also smoking can pop or clog alveoli, which is a quick shortcut to infection. They cannot grow back, so your cardiopulmonary system will permanently be a tiny bit less efficient forever.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Thank you for the explanation, I didn't know about the risk to alveoli either. Very informative.

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is a shit example but imagine walking a path through grass every day vs every four days except if the grass dies, you die

Tl;dr just vape! It’s less harmful, more efficient (you’re not literally burning money), and you can use the vaped bud for fun edibles or tinctures

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, this isn't an issue for vaping? Cool, that's what I have right now anyway.

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[–] Zoift@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

They're the little cellular hairs that sweep all the dust and mites and tar out of your trachea/bronchioles. Smoking literally burns them short/covers them in tar and they have to grow out again.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] plinky@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

don't listen to lib-ic system meow-hug

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[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah so the problem with hard opiates is that they'll hollow your soul out over time, and they are actively more addictive the more your life sucks when you start using them. People who have good lives tend to be more likely to say things like "opiates are too subtle/overrated". But when shit sucks, opiates make you feel content. Obviously that's real bad if you weren't already somewhat content with life. When I started using them I felt like I found some sort of answer to everything wrong with me. But my problems didn't go away, I just stopped being bothered by them.

The shittiest thing is that this effect isn't reliable. It's called the honeymoon phase of opioid addiction. Within a few months of active opioid addiction, you'll stop feeling the effects, but you'll still need to continuously use them to avoid horrific withdrawal symptoms.

I recommend LSD, Shrooms, or dissociatives instead. The euphoria can be vastly superior because it isn't this kind of "ultimately contented, but empty" euphoria you get with opioids. Instead you just sort of feel really good about the actual positive shit that exists in your life and around you.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Opiates aren't even that great recreationally tbh. Like they feel good but they aren't fun if that makes sense. You just kinda nod out while feeling good

Meanwhile weed, psychedelics, ketamine, etc. makes you feel good AND it gives you interesting effects or enhances reality

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Definitely, they are in no way a party drug. Two people doing hard opiates together is just two people sitting in silence next to each other while they nod out in their own little worlds. That said, when you both run out and have to go through the exact same demented set of withdrawal symptoms together? That builds real solidarity, unironically, but there is no fun/excitement in getting high on opiates. In fact, they sort of kill my ability to have real fun because they are taking up all the mu opioid receptor spots that could otherwise be occupied by endogenous opioid peptides when I do something rewarding.

I can't even enjoy music on opioids, which blows my mind. Not even on my Buprenorphine maintenance dose. Once withdrawals start I can listen to my favorite songs and feel things again. Not worth withdrawing over, but it definitely helps pass the time if I have to go there.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Or perhaps boofing estrogen

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

estrogen is the hardest drug known to mankind. its time to snort some of that blue funk lenin-heisenberg

[–] naom3@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You’re thinking of prog. Estrogen you gotta inject. Rookie mistake

Skill issue. I can do it.

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

I was gonna say, this is actually one of the accepted ways of taking progesterone since the creams usually aren't potent enough and don't absorb very consistently.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Along with boofing an energy drink popsicle.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago
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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When you're in a hole, stop digging

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When all you have is a shovel, everytbing else looks like dirt

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd encourage you to reevaluate if that's really all you have or if you're catastrophizing because you're going through a personal crisis

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[–] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

When I got some actual good heroin, I realized why heroin addicts say they love heroin. It’s like an anti-depressant, literally the only thing that has ever worked. Stay the fuck away from it.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Uh, sir, this is an ironic shitposting site... not a literal Chapotraphouse...

Well then how come these people keep trhing to sell me mexican black tar heroin

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That lasts too long. I always liked mushrooms better

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[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ecstasy is the best, with the worst hangover... Ketamine is great because the "hangover" is like an anti-hangover... Coke is the worst

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

I liked the hangover off a weed brownie, but that's cause it felt like a runner's high.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

A lot of people seem to swear by kratom and from what I gather it's really got no nasty side effects or withdrawal symptoms from use.

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking krokodil mixed with drain cleaner

[–] The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not your point, but when they do scary anti-drug propaganda about drugs being made with "drain cleaner" they're talking about hydrochloric acid which is a standard chemical used for any number of things when making drugs in any context. If you've ever seen a prescription name ending in "HCL" or "Hydrochloride" that's drain cleaner! ohnoes

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No. I mean, Drain-o. Not just thr hcl. The wholr ass Drain-o bottle. Epic style.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

side effects are limited. take too much and you just get the spins and feel nausea for 30 minutes. withdrawal is possible it just takes much longer to get physically addicted. basically you need to be doing pretty heavy doses all day for weeks and weeks (although your mileage may vary).

compared to regular opioids, the withdrawal is pretty short

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[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

It's never too late to ruin your life

Honestly there aren't many better highs than the first time weed hits you right

[–] Lawn_and_disorder@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Dude go visit the aliens with some DMT , they will talk some sense in to you

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[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Zoift@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

EA-3167, or just like, several spoonfuls of powdered nutmeg.

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