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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 54 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I have encountered processes that even Task Manager could not kill.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

All the damn time. I typically use Linux, so having a process I can't even force kill is a severely annoying concept.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

This has happened to me only once on Linux. I still tell stories about it.

It was a CD burning program stuck in uninterruptible sleep! Trapped in a system call into the kernel that can never be interrupted by a signal, it was truly unkillable. The SIGKILLs simply piled up never to be delivered.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

THIS is your big "You won't believe what happened to me...." story???

sigh

When I was 14, I took the power cord for the original PS1 and shaved the rubber off the end until metal prongs were sticking out. Then I noticed if the outlet end was plugged in, and you touched the metal prongs on the other end, you couldn't drop it. It would electricute you, but it would also stick to your skin for 5-10 seconds as it electricuted you.

So being a 14 year old male, I did the only logical thing. I put it on my penis.

It was quite shocking!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used to stick forks in the electrical outlets.

Now I post Linux memes.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

That tracks.

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[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I....can't tell what is happening here. Is he having an orgasm? Is he supposed to be a priest, or a slave?

That's Frodo Baggins on the verge of death thou fool!

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[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would assume that was a kernel issue.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In this case it was a driver holding that thread captive and making an assumption about the hardware eventually responding to a request which never completes.

So yes indeed it was the kernel, and ideally the driver could be written better, but that’s probably easier said than done when the hardware can do weird things.

This was a long time ago, so for all I know the issue has been long corrected.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

It honestly was the thing that pushed me to Linux. Once I could no longer kill programs at-will I couldn't handle it. xkill ftw.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah... It doesn't happen often and when it does, it's usually a driver and/or hw issue that is likely to leak memory and/or hold file descriptors but procs in D (uninterruptible_sleep) state do happen. It's really obnoxious that murdering them with SIGKILL does nothing.

[–] Magikjak@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A while ago I kept a shortcut in the taskbar that ran a batch file that killed any unresponsive task, worked even on those tasks that Task Manager can’t seem to close. As long as explorer was still running and I could alt tab and press that button it worked 100% of the time

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How do you determine if a task is unresponsive?

[–] Magikjak@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was something like this. It would just kill all tasks that haven’t responded in X amount of time. Obviously this is not a great solution as it can cause data loss and you could accidentally close more than just the program you intend to close, but sometimes you have little choice.

https://superuser.com/questions/1432304/how-can-i-automatically-kill-unresponsive-apps-and-games-with-a-batch-file

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's proper mental, I don't know why you'd keep that running unnecessarily (unless fiddling with something you can easily replicate).

Im pretty sure it's still not going to catch the stuck things that aren't actually killable

[–] Magikjak@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It wasn’t something I kept running, just a shortcut that would run the batch file and kill anything that wasn’t responding at the time. I’m not sure if this uses the same command I had set up at the time, but I remember it having a 100% success rate. I had it for one game in particular which would crash and stop responding but any attempts to get to the task manager (even with keyboard) would fail.

I haven’t had to use anything like this since Windows 10 as now you can just press Windows+Tab and move the task to a different desktop and then get into the task manager on your original desktop.

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago

But I also remember the times when there was no foe Task Manager could not kill.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

“This computer is hereby deconstituted.”

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

SIGTERM: stop that.

SIGKILL: That was not a request.

Case power button: listen here you little shit

[–] CommissarVulpin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I flip off the breaker, just to be safe.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Sounds like it's not just me that goes "ok then, try arguing with this" when power cycling an unresponsive computer.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, a Linux user wipes blood off a sledgehammer with "SIGKILL" written on the handle

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Doesn't seem to work for me. If Rustdesk goes rogue, it refuses to die. I might need to practice some more command-line-fu though.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 16 points 2 months ago

*Cortana will remember this

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Task manager: not responding

[–] TheGuyTM3@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One time I was playing modded Skyrim when it froze/crashed at the loading screen

So I summon task manager, it hides behind the frozen game. I alt+tab and start blind keying to Skyrim to end it, been here hundreds of times, but nothing happens and the Skyrim world music STARTS???!!!

ALT+TAB to see TM and Skyrim both reporting non-responsive. Tab to Skyrim and press w, clearly hear character moving and reacting to my input

Try again to end process via ALT+F4, No dice. Try via TM, still unresponsive

I had to reboot my PC with a hard power button press that time and I still don't fully understand what the FUCK happened

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

New Vegas does the same thing, hiding Task Manager behind itself when it crashes. I found a workaround by using Ctrl+Alt+Del, clicking to make the cursor appear, and then pressing the Windows key which makes the taskbar appear. Then the game window can be closed from the taskbar.

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[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

$ sudo kill -9 1

fuck you

$ echo "c" > /proc/sysrq-trigger

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[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Task Manager stopped responding

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you mean top. Followed by a k and the enter key twice.

[–] ADTJ 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

TIL you can kill processes straight from top

[–] TheDarkQuark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

You can, but I recommend btop. It's much more cooler.

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only if the process is a bottom.

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[–] sag@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 4 points 2 months ago

Only works on xorg

[–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I miss xkill. I recently switched to Wayland but xkill worked instantly 100% of the time.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I work as a helpdesk tech and I always say that I killed a task in task manager when writing up ticket notes.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't removed task manager yet.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As a windows user WIN+R -> CMD -> TASKKILL /F /T /IM "<appname>*"

... I use it too much. Appa often block my screen :|

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

killall

Note: Only use it sparingly. We don't want another skynet.

[–] binary45@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Task Manager, kill this guy!

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