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Or OMG what if we made DOTA but Hearthstone.

Damn we would be some serious innovators in the video game space. Nobody could ever think to do that.

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[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it makes me sad. the people yearn for a new arena shooter but esports ready slop is what we're getting. it doesn't look fun at all and in terms of stuff like movement mechanics it's a clear devolution from team fortress and dumbing down of those things ala overwatch.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

I HATE ESPORTS

I HATE ESPORTS

spoilerI'd hate the concept less if it wasn't forced into so many franchises and genres in ways that take away from those genres in attempts to cash in. There was a cool Heavy Gear mecha game concept that seemed promising until it tripped over itself trying to be esports trash some years back, for example, and Planetside 2 wasted years of development time trying to pander to esports shit that went nowhere and wasted an entire map of developer time that no one else could use or even see.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just bring back GunZ: The Duel tbh

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

How dare you speak those holy words in my presence

How dare you make me remember

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have never fully understood the appeal of a convoluted and bloated metagame within a game (that basically killed off the RTS genre that spawned it) that has its own specific and rigid rules and expected way for each match to play out in a way that causes excruciatingly long death spirals for the losing team that have to be played through each and every time and the consequent rage and toxicity that encourages in its playerbase... and why I'd voluntarily want to play or even watch that. nyet

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On literally my first game of this someone kept calling everyone the r slur for being bad at the game. It's not even released yet. How can anyone be good yet.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

First and foremost that keeps me far away from MOBA anything. Something about the format is like a rage magnet, and with that it also pulls in all sorts of bigotry, too. nyet

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You need a decently high ELO for there to be a guaranteed death spiral rather than execution mistakes big enough that you can seize the momentum back.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

I suppose I'll just take your word from it. I'm an outside observer that had associates that more or less horrified me with how "fun" the toxic hate vomit they were swimming around during ranked matches was to them.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Honestly I think this game feels closer to Smite than Overwatch.

It's Smite but with more involved fps aiming and guns.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I never really played Smite unfortunately. Honestly I don't hate it, I just think it's fairly uninspired.

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] NewDark@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Felt like it didn't get a fair shake. There was a good game in there, just needed some polish and good matchmaking / ranked.

[–] zen404@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Predecessor is pretty much continuing paragon, with adjustments, of cours

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Overprime died and predecessor is not long for this world. Interestingly, neither major reboot had the content of the final state of Paragon Global, and started from about six months of updates before closure of original paragon. They both reworked decks in a way I didn't really enjoy personally anyway

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

From a company that already has an fps moba series

Just make team fortress 3 if you really want to do that again

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

a Toyota Hilux in a lane is a MOBA.

technical

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Hey what if we could only count to 2

[–] eight@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

icefrog can do no wrong

[–] 12022081631@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if they literally made it Dota but Path of Exile i'd be Building the hype train

im too old for competition. i just want to last hit with people sadness

maybe stormgate pve idk

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

DOTA but PoE would actually be sicko-hyper

[–] 12022081631@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

i am ready to snatch up all the last hits on the map and run off into a portal as the year beast kills my friend, i have trained for it

[–] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

real game exec boardroom minutes

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What if it had loot boxes and a battle pass

[–] booty@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm on board but only if there's a cute teenaged girl that we can pile skins onto for extra profits

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hey what if we have one enby character that never gets a single special edition skin but we have 10 different age ambiguous anime girls that get 15 different swimsuit edition skins.

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

oh and every time you try to play it runs smoothly for like ten seconds and then crashes. Every time.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago
[–] Yor@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I really like the game. Valve are doing some interesting things (rail system, movement in general) and I think it's generally just fun. There are some aesthetic things that need attention with the map and UI, but otherwise I'm optimistic

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It reminds me of what Paladins used to be and I already dig it for that alone

Plus Infernus. That man became my IMMEDIATE main fuck what ya heard

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Infernous does sooo much damage so quickly kril-at-sea

I've been playing Abrams and Dynamo and he was awful to lane against as Dynamo lol

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I just saw Infernus's whole design, and the fact that his hat is definitely the same unusual my Pyro wears, and it was like I could hear the voice of the divine telling me "him, he's the one. That is Himothy." I've just gotta figure out how his everything links together to stack up is all

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

DOTA but Hearthstone

Artifact? Not sure what DOTA but Overwatch would be

To be honest, I think Dota Souls would be kinda cool.

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The joke is that Valve are currently doing closed testing for a "DOTA but it's Overwatch" game.

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

well, what is it called? I literally can't even find any information about it

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Deadlock, it's all over the place if you search "new valve game".

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I exit scammed by selling my axecoin on day 0, only time I have made money off vidya aside from selling EVE-O accounts.

[–] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How are y’all already in? I thought this was closed lol.

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it technically is, just once you have an invite you can invite your whole friends list lol. awoo invited a bunch of people here. do you want an invite to try?

[–] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I wouldn’t say no, but I’m not entirely sure on how steam opsec works and wouldn’t want to make it awkwardly

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Overwatch is already TF2 but with MOBA skillset

So now we have dota2 but distilled TF2

I don't dislike the idea, moba third person is cool but Smite's company kinda sucks. What I didn't like about the game is how much I feel like I'm playing dota 2 and I really don't like dota 2, my little brain can only comprehend league of legends.

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I actually enjoyed Artifact, even made ~10 bux in steam wallet net from selling the included pack pulls on market day 0 and playing pauper exclusively until f2p.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Artifact was fun, it just wasn't fun enough and/or innovative and/or exciting enough to be successful.

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Battleborn: "Am I a joke to you?"

[–] Stolen_Stolen_Valor@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Why are there so many of these all of the sudden? Why in 2024?

There’s this one, Overwatch 2, Smite 2, the Marvel one, the but we have Marvel at home one, the anime girl one.

What gives?