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I find this mildly infuriating, I only use Windows for work, I even personally purchased Windows 11. Local account and disabled as much as I could. I personally do not like Windows or Windows in general.

Well, now I do an update and they throw this up like I need to walk thru these steps (again). Not even a "Skip"/"Don't remind me again". Windows is not what it used to be and after disabling half the Microsoft stuff I'd expect not to be bothered again. It's really a built in ad more then anything.

2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5029351)

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 149 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Remind me in 3 days. That shit should be against the law. There should be a don't bug me ever again option.

[–] martinbasic@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Try to uncheck "Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows"/"Show me the Windows welcome experience after updates and occasionally when I sign in to highlight what’s new and suggested" in Settings -> System -> Notification & actions (Windows 10) or "Offer suggestions on how I can set up my device" in Settings -> System -> Notifications (Windows 11)

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linux user here. But, that will be helpful for many I'm sure. Nice

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Why are you upset? We gave you a choice."

[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Afterall, "Your PC needs to be backed up and connected to a few more Microsoft services to help you work more easily and securely across all your devices.".

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[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a dark pattern microaggression.

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[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 107 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That's actually a good thing IMO, Microsoft is giving people more reasons to switch to Linux. How kind of them!

[–] Moc@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The new Debian is fucking awesome.

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[–] famousringo@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Windows is nagware now. Microsoft dared to imagine an entire OS on the Winrar model.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its actually worse than that. I PAID for Windows. If I paid for WinRAR they would stop.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well WinRAR only nags you when you use it, unlike windows that is always running and almost always nagging.

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[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I wish they went with the winrar model. Winrar just nags you once when starting. Windows keeps trying to trick you into giving them your data and signing up for a subscription.

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[–] kavkya@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (20 children)

So many comments shitting here and not giving helpful advice at all, so so fucking stupid. The best way to get ahead of this would be when the next time this pops up, press Shift + f10 and then type "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" easy and simple, takes only a few seconds and makes everything more seamless, such as no one drive bullshit etc..

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[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (16 children)

If it's your own machine, I recommend running one of the Windows 11 debloaters.

I've moved all of my personal machines over to Linux (specifically Ubuntu). Windows just isn't worth it anymore.

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[–] kszeslaw@szmer.info 41 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This kind of shit is what made me switch to Linux. I just didn't feel like I owned my computer anymore.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The most infuriating thing about windows to me is the big stupid fucking red X on every single file, reminding me that I'm not currently storing my shit on someone else's computer. Is there a way to remove that service from my computer entirely?

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That's what I did, it's one of the few things that it does let you uninstall.

[–] martinbasic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Disable Manage folder backup feature in OneDrive settings -> Backup -> Manage backup -> Stop backup on all folders, or toggle them off on newer version.

[–] Crow@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s not your computer, it’s Microsoft’s. That’s the message I get from using windows.

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[–] CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Eh, this particular screen is kind if misleading. You say you dont see a "skip" or "do not remind again" button, well that's because those buttons are on the next screen(s) for each individual feature. I've gotten this screen a couple times, just click through and you can skip/opt out of all the features. It's kind of silly, but I think the point is that they want you to look at each new feature individually.

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[–] SaltyLemon@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Windows 10 is my last windows. When it's no longer supported I guess I'll have to learn to use Linux.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm not waiting for that, just waiting until I have a free few days to figure out linux.

Also abandoning Android for Graphene as soon as I get a new phone.

Enshittification advances ever onwards

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[–] ronflex@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We can bitch all we want but their dollars still go up

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[–] Transcriptionist@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Image Transcription:

The Windows 11 Set Up Wizard with the following text: Let's finish setting up your PC Your PC needs to be backed up and connected to a few more Microsoft services to help you work more easily and securely across all your devices. Back up your files with OneDrive cloud storage Have peace of mind knowing they're backed up and available across your devices. Enhance your web browsing experience Restore Microsoft recommended browser settings. Achieve more with a Microsoft 365 subscription Get premium Microsoft 365 apps, 1 TB of cloud storage to back up files and photos, and more. Back up your phone to your PC Access your phone's photos, texts, and more, right on your PC. Sign in quickly with Windows Hello Securely unlock your device with a touch or a smile. Below are the buttons Remind me in 3 days and Continue

[I am a human, if I’ve made a mistake please let me know. Please consider providing alt-text for ease of use. Thank you. 💜]

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

Don't support Windows. Just use windows activation scripts and run Chris Titus Tech's Windows security and debloating script. If you can, you're better off on Linux.

[–] Jaybob32@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go to Settings > System > Notifications. Turn off the last three check boxes. This screen won't come back.

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[–] dcooksta26@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (13 children)

You can prevent this. Click remind later then go to your notifications in the settings app. Uncheck "Suggest ways I can finish setting up" and anything else you don't want to see.

[–] zik@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love that I have to go out of my way and follow online instructions to undo something that they forced on me in the first place. That's customer antagonistic design for you.

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I swear this gets posted weekly, there’s a simple solution but it’s always missing from the comments.

Go into notification settings

Uncheck "Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows"

While you’re at it, turn off any of the other suggestion / recommendation settings.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Except Microsoft will occasionally reset settings on updates.

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[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Windows is actually right back where it used to be, to be honest. Getting pretty tired of the whole "ecosystem" tech philosophy.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Local account and disabled as much as I could

2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems

Why are you running updates for beta testers, if you decided to disable as much as you could? Those "Preview" updates will install everything you're missing and more every time, that's their purpose.

Switch to stable updates only, and you won't have that problem... or at least have it way less often.

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[–] xoagray@pawb.social 21 points 1 year ago (14 children)

The thing that really rubs me the wrong way about all this is we pay for Windows, I have 3 licenses for Windows 11 and it's gotten so annoying that I don't even use them anymore. I've been a Linux user for quite a while already and between Microsoft's doing more and more data collection, and more ads, I just walked away from it a couple years ago. Fortunately, I was in a position where I could do so. I feel bad for folks that must use Windows for this or that and can't escape it.

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[–] conner5@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 year ago

Windows is bullshit

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They are desperate because 2/3 of their userbase still uses Windows 10.

Look, i don't mind the CPU/TPM requirement too much now, but did you really needed to mess up the interface? (Plus, forcing you to have Teams always installed.)

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[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I always laugh that the option not to get Microsoft 365 is just "Stay Basic"

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[–] WheatleyInc@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Just upgrade back to Windows 10.

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[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Laughing from Debian

[–] Klax@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Im going to bat for Microsoft here, coming from someone who uses both for work+home.

How many tech enthusiast/pcgamers are paying customers of Microsoft? I'd bet that most of us are using grey market OEM keys or reusing a license we've had upgraded from a previous install.

Communities like ours love to harpe on about how 95% of people are not bothered by the invasiveness of the telemetry and advertising, yet those are the very same people that are likely subscribing to Office365, not changing their default browser from Edge, and not installing an adblocker.

These are, in a sense, the "paying customer" to whom any profit driven company would be trying to improve experience of. Setting up cloud backup, signing in to your PC with your phone, using an online account are all good things from a general user perspective. I'd bet they have the telemetry to back this up.

I wish MS would release a SKU which was targeted towards the tech enthusiast, but how would they make that profitable? Not to mention I think a lot of us have a few fundamental misunderstandings on the current situation, some examples;

  1. Telemetry is essential to modern software development, people don't submit enough bug reports and nor should they be expected to for things like device drivers.
  2. The store/store apps is a better delivery model for software than going to a website to grab the setup.exe. It enforces standardisation, simplifies the process for devs to push updates and isolates user applications from the underlying operating system.
  3. Even these days you can configure Windows to not include a lot of the stuff people complain about if you're ok with Powershell. At one point in time, being a power user in Windows for both home and work was just about knowing where the GUI buttons are. Now it is about being comfortable in a command line.

I need to purge myself after all that corporate shilling.

[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

The Univ and College where I work are forcing every students and staff to use Office 365, and the MS authentificator app for 2fa. They pay millions every years to Microsoft for this, plus the thousand of licences for windows, etc.

Why in the world would you defend that greedy unethtical corporation that now incorporate advertisment directly in windows and keep pushing more and more of their products with every forced update. They make millions only with schools in my provinces.

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