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I find this mildly infuriating, I only use Windows for work, I even personally purchased Windows 11. Local account and disabled as much as I could. I personally do not like Windows or Windows in general.

Well, now I do an update and they throw this up like I need to walk thru these steps (again). Not even a "Skip"/"Don't remind me again". Windows is not what it used to be and after disabling half the Microsoft stuff I'd expect not to be bothered again. It's really a built in ad more then anything.

2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5029351)

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[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If it's your own machine, I recommend running one of the Windows 11 debloaters.

I've moved all of my personal machines over to Linux (specifically Ubuntu). Windows just isn't worth it anymore.

[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's a good recommendation, I actually did run a windows debloater/spyware before. This just happened to be snuck in with an update I guess? I should probably do it again at this point.

I wouldn't use Windows if I didn't have too...I do run Tails and Ubuntu as well but unfortunately 40hrs+ a week on Windows...it sucks.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You have to run it again after every major update.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Run the debloater every update. Some stuff in there is actual settings, but other stuff will be "repaired" by windows.

Also, a workaround to that screen (so far, at least) is to shut the computer down and start up again and it doesn't return till next update.

[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Okay, nice! Good information!

[–] 7Sea_Sailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Question: if you already don't like Windows, I assume you don't care about the new features that come with new updates. So I wonder - why do you update at all? Set everything up as you want it, remove all the hot garbage as you see fit, and disable updates.

[–] amio@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Skipping software updates is not a good idea, let alone OS updates. Inbetween all the terribly annoying bullshit they insist on foisting off on people, they do provide security patches and so on.

[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Primarily for drivers and security updates.

You have a point, I could turn off updates and manually update as I need too but my frustration is that there are ads in the first place.

[–] 7Sea_Sailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my frustration is that there are ads in the first place

Fair enough, a very good point.

Personally I've been using customized / debloated versions of windows for a couple years now and have not looked back. Every time I spin up a stock Windows VM I'm shocked how atrocious the experience is. Though I understand that a Windows ISO modified by an unknown third party can be scary to some.

[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I would trust an unknown 3rd parties ISO more then the stock Windows at this point really...

[–] 7Sea_Sailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

There's been a pretty recent development in the Windows Customization community which released a new toolkit, essentially allowing you to write YAML-based scripts with custom instructions how to modify a live windows installation, which makes the process completely open-source and transparent. I can link some of the projects pages if youre interested to learn more.

[–] monsieur_jean@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you like the Snap store and snap packages being pushed on you silently when you try to install packages through APT? :)

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Give them a break. They just moved from Windows, you just need to relearn to breath after that. Moving to another distro is a small step in comparison.

[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not new to Linux, it's literally what I've been dealing with for work for the last decade. I just meant that I moved the last of my personal machines away from Windows.

[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have run into zero issues installing packages from other places. The snap store is a bit annoying but not a big deal. I've been on and off using Ubuntu since ~2005 so that's why I went with it over another distro.

[–] CharAhNalaar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You want a broken Windows install? This is how you get a broken Windows install.

[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Speaking from experience here. I've done this on over a dozen different computers with zero issues over a three month span. It was part of a proposal for transitioning our company computers to Windows 11 while cutting out the junk. None of them had any problems running without Xbox services, Cortana, bloatware games, activity tracking, etc.

We ended up using Microsoft Intune for restricting Windows 10/11 to our standards. But that's not really available for consumers and debloaters are safe to use instead.