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[–] BiomedOtaku@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 1 year ago

This just shows they can't win so they have to resort to brainwashing children.

[–] FranticParrot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

By understanding the motivations of today’s youth, the anti-piracy group hopes to be in a better position to influence their behavior.

I pirate because I don't get paid the full value of my labor. Pay me more and I'll buy more goods and services. It's also more convenient to have everything in one place.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The other annoying thing is that "owning" something is getting to be non-existent anymore. Sure, I can "buy" all the seasons of Supernatural from iTunes. But I only "own" the show for was long as I have my iTunes subscription, and iTunes has the rights to show it, and I have internet service with enough bandwidth to stream it, and I'm not under a bandwidth cap or some other restriction.

Or I can grab a copy and it'll happily live on my hard drive forever, no need to worry about subscriptions or streaming rights or bandwidth limitations.

Tell me: in which of those scenarios do I actually "own" the series?

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[–] theshatterstone54 8 points 1 year ago

AND offer good stuff! AND make it actually convenient and worth the money. A single streaming service at $15 a month, no more, that has all the "exclusives", be it Stranger Things, The Mandalorian, or Rings of Power (okay, maybe not that last piece of garbage). Then I would consider paying, and only if it is truly more convenient and offers better quality with less buffering than pirate streaming. Until then, it's a pirate's life for me.

[–] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

The streaming sites already sell my data anytime I click a button on their website, you don't get my money too.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's awesome news. Teaching them about anti-piracy will lead them to piracy and make sure that piracy will remain for future generations.

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

You mean I can get all this stuff for free and all you can do to stop me is try to scare high schoolers?

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

They really didn't think it through.

[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would, in fact, download a car

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But would you decapitate a policeman, steal his helmet, shit into it and send it to his widow? That's the real question.

[–] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago
[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I confess I have not considered doing that, I have only dabbled in online piracy.

[–] slushiedrinker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, let's see... At my school, smoking was bad. I started smoking. My school taught us that drinking alcohol was very bad. I started drinking with my friends. We learned at school that the USSR was going to attack us with nukes at any moment. So I started doing an annoying impersonation of Boris and Natascha every time we had a "hide under your desk drill" that was quite entertaining. We were warned in social studies class about the dangers of using fireworks and cherry bombs. My friends and I were on the constant hunt of old cherry bombs. Ronald Reagan's administration started a physical fitness program that gave awards to kids that passed a certain test in gym glass. A lot of us didn't try hard on purpose because it looked silly and many of us, to our shock, still won the award because it was too easy. So, perhaps the schools are creating a whole new generation of super pirates. Some of those kids probably don't even know what pirating is. They'll find out now. And don't forget, boys and girls, ketchup is a vegetable. If ketchup is a vegetable, relish is, too. So make sure you eat up all your relish we give you at lunch time, with some ketchup on top.

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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

”Are you a thief?”

gigachad Yes.

I'm sure this shit would've gone over well with teenage me who downloaded all his games and music using P2P software.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love to see what actual academics in this field have to say about course material for children that equates copyright infringement with theft. I imagine it wouldn't be good.

Having a few comments on record about this issue might help steer schools away from adopting it.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus by "theft" they mean not paying a subscription to use what you already bought.

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[–] Mantis_Toboggan@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you mean there are all these movies, media, software that I can get for free, when I'm too broke to purchase it or subscribe to it and my parents wont buy it?

It's like DARE, only that the drugs are actually free this time.

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[–] Cheesycrackers@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

McGruffy the Anti-Piracy Crime dog asks you a question, “You wouldn’t download a car, would you?”.
This will turn out just as well as the DARE program did, it will only inspire kids into researching more about pirating. As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Shhh let boomers do another one

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow, openly letting corpos propogandize children.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

DONT COPY THAT FLOPPY sicko-jammin

[–] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Intellectual property is theft

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

If I was ever a parent of someone being taught anti-piracy lessons in school, I'd have to show him the error of the lessons by showing him the money I'd be saving by pirating and telling him that the money I don't spend on large companies will in fact not kill them. Gotta set a good example.

[–] MeatballFlag@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure this will about as effective as D. A. R. E. in American schools and keeping people off drugs

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[–] Sanrasxz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

The last sentence suggests that, in some cases, pirates can get content sooner than their paying counterparts. This availability issue is often seen as a main driver of piracy. While improvements can be made on the supply side, the course urges teens to postpone their needs instead.

Really? Who would've guessed that piracy is a service problem? How about you improve your shit so people don't feel inclined to pirate it. Who's gonna pay for a shittier experience?

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you a thief?

I think that when they define "thief" as someone who will watch a TV show on Dailymotion when there's no other way to get it, they're going to be surprised how many people (especially schoolkids) are willing to say "Yes, I'm a thief."

[–] Trihilis@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago

The record and movie industry must be paying out of their asses to have this shit taught in schools.

Let's teach our kids the importance of making billionaires richer and not actual important stuff like checking facts or making a well informed decision when voting.

Absolute dystopian bullshit.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago

If by "thief" you mean someone that copies information, then yes I am.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope the discussions immediately turn to better questions like “what does it mean to own an idea or a blueprint or a sound.”

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop all the downloadin’

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[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I mean they’d already told us it’s like stealing a car, I thought we’d accepted that and moved on (with all our free cars).

[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

We can teach them about how once-upon-a-time common sense copyright laws got perverted by the mouse so badly.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

I tell kids these days they are totally in one of those YAF novels where the teachers and ministers and testers (and even parents) are all in on the plot to force you through a doughboy program that turns you into an interchangeable, disposable, replaceable soldier or laborer to be exploited and discarded in some billionaire's vanity project, all the while the world is covered in plastic residue and is liberally burning.

IP maximalist indoctrination feels entirely on par, especially considering how disengagement is a far greater threat to media industries than piracy.

Incidentally, IP infringement, including copyright infringement is never theft. Cheating creators and developers of a fair share of the profits, however, is theft.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Leave it to Denmark to be the lamest European country. Embarrassing.

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