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[–] spacecadet@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Scary hate-crime consequences aside, it is sociologically/psychologically fascinating to see cis straight men being forced to reckon with what the fuck even their sexual preferences are, what they actually entail, what the acceptable boundaries are in their mind, etc. etc.

Being mired in cultural and social norms that were decided for you before you even gained self awareness seems exhausting and tragic.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure this is straight men being forced to reckon with anything tbh

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are the only people calling male attraction to beautiful women gay

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. But are we sure they're actually straight? Or guys?

I posit that many of these instances are poor, unfortunate queers so completely subsumed by their internalized homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia that they're in complete denial about the fact that they are not actually cishet men.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

Some may be, but the stereotype of a self-hating closeted person puts the burden of homo/transphobia on the lgbtq community while there's more than enough straight people managing to do it

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The "all homophobes are secretly gay" thing is a pretty tired homophobic cliche

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[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago
[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does this also mean that liking twinks makes you straight?

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago

If you're attracted to this body type in a woman it could be because the gay culture has gotten ahold of you

That's true, you could be attracted to this body type because you're a lesbian.

[–] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

BREAKING NEWS:

Being attracted to twinks is now straight. We have talked to local twinks at a pride parade to interview them on what they think of this.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago

Gay - it’s the new straight

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[–] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ancient Masculinity

Cool. Lets talk about hygiene in ancient times. Before makeup, shampoo, toothpaste and modern concepts of "femininity" existed.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 months ago

Ancient Greeks and Romans (as this guy clearly idealizes, considering the pfp) were dandy as fuck, tbh. Gay (or bi) as fuck, too. They liked their masculinity, and they fetishized it arguably a whole lot more than femininity, with predictable (sexual) results.

The "ancient times" this guy so loves, never existed outside his mind- or perhaps they did, but not with the "ancient Romans/Greeks/most ancient 'civilized' folk." The notions of "masculinity" he subscribes to, in fact, would probably have seen this guy derided (accurately in this case) as a "barbarian..."

This guy's notions of masculinity are not only inspired by, if not wholly formed from the "barbarian" asscrack of Eurasia (western and northwestern Europe, though I'd call the genuine barbarism of the west a more recent thing, a product of 500 years of unparalleled barbaric behavior, perhaps much more considering the Crusades, both northern and southern) as the ancient civilizations saw it- but they're inspired by the rot that festered in that asscrack following Christianization, the collapse of the Roman Empire at the hands of "barbarians," and the gradual abandonment of much of the actual merits of that time (hygiene and sanitation, for instance).

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've thought about this before. I don't think my sexual urges would have overcome the absolute ass stank produced before we discovered soap, regular bathing, and brushing teeth. I do seem to have a stronger sense of smell than most and find most people pretty gross already.

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You'd probably be smell blind to it. It's a very different thing if you grew up used to it.

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[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

same.. but then again if you never knew any different then maybe you'd be MORE attracted to stank than the average person? I've wondered that myself because i really can't handle BO

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, that's what's made me question it. Is it social conditioning? Idk, but I get unreasonably angry at people who are funky in inappropriate contexts. I still find it very unpleasant (including my own) in situations that are understandable/appropriate, but the anger isn't there.

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 2 months ago

It's telling to me how fragile the gender binary is when people feel the need to police attraction lines based on such arbitrary physical characteristics as how much someone does bodybuilding or fitness.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

that body type does lead to a rise in homosexuality in me though hexbear-lesbian

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 months ago

Most of the time I'm just glad that my brain is like: 'that person is hot' regardless of gender and I don't ever have to worry about how me liking another person is perceived by some weirdos

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

this is so utterly stipid. women are attracted to athletic men, why shouldn't it be the other way round? physical fitness is a sign of health and therefore desirable

[–] snailboy@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

What are you talking bro? If woman big strong, means she not small and weak and need big strong man (me) to protect her from all dangers and get validation for my increasingly fragile sense of self worth put in place by generations of archaic social conditioning.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 2 months ago

uncritical support for the manosphere in this topic, leave all the muscle mommies to me

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 2 months ago

I must now come out as gay

[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The ancient masculinity of being repulsed by your wife who toils in the fields with you, filthy, sweating, and strong.

[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

Anyway I want to be rocking with someone where we can bench press each other.

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

gay culture has gotten hold of you

Yo gay culture hmu, wya come hold me

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why do they have those statues as their profile picture every single time?

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alright. But why are those a symbol of that?

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are often extremely muscular statues with god like bodies. The Romans and the Greeks themselves were believed to have painted them in all kinds of colors but along the way they came to represent whiteness as the most pure and perfect form. It's basically the literal version of whitewashing history.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

There's also some worship of (an idealized form of) ancient Rome and Greece here. They see their particular theme park version as a peak example of a society unmarred by the millieu of things they consider dege[...]ate.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Fetishizing ancient Greece and Rome as the birthplace of Western Civilization whose ideals our immoral society's have degraded from.

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah this is fun to dunk on and all but it’s weird and slightly annoying to act like this is a common thing with straight men. It isn’t. Majority of men seeing those women would talk about how hot they are.

Idk why but Twitter is a cesspool with every Heterosexual stereotype out there and magnified to make it seem like it’s more common than it is.

If this were some dumb shit about how cooking and liking the arts meant you were gay then yes it would be more realistic. I hear that shit all the time.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 months ago

I just read through the thread and tried to mentally filter for people saying it's a common thing. Didn't find anything particularly overt in that way. Don't think anyone was making claims as to how common it is either way, but I guess I could have missed it.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 months ago

they just be catering to incels

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago

People when Resident Evil Village was first announced be like.

PS: it's one of my favorite games for other reasons.

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[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 months ago

If snu-snu is gay I don’t wanna be straight.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"increase of this body type..." Or perhaps anatomy's always been more complicated and more variable than the greek statue dipshit thought it was. How much time do these guys actually spend looking at people?

[–] jack@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

they spend 8-10 hours a day studying Japanese anatomical art

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

Actually if you're a man who isn't attracted to this, you're probably gay. I mean...

DAMN

[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

Some men like their women to be a bad ass. Must not be man enough to be with a when like that.

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

It turns out straights were the gayest of all

[–] D61@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

me standing at attention and saluting

Reporting for Gay Duty!

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 months ago

Or what if it means: MORE LESBIANS!

[–] Chef_Boyardee@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Yep, this straight man even knows who that is in the picture.

Emily Rolfe has one of the most beautiful physiques on the planet.

Form is function.

[–] RedColossus@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 months ago

These dudes are always the weirdest closet cases… I feel like they like femboys because they have secondary traits that society has deemed “feminine” and need a way to explain how they aren’t LGBTQ+ by suggesting the opposite is somehow true. Just accept everyone is on the spectrum to some degree and carry on.

[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Me, a bi, nonbinary, transfem: Oh I'm gay for them alright 👀

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