How about they get rid of the shitty dropshippers instead?
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My favorite was the one that generated a ship code but never actually shipped the item, and kept telling Etsy "Oops - one more week for us to get this figured out" every time I complained with Etsy until the refund period ended, and Etsy stood behind them.
I'm never using Etsy again after that bullshit.
So that's fraud, report it to your state/local AG office of consumer protection. Might be able to get your money back.
Or just contact your credit card provider and say the item was never shipped, because it wasn't. Bonus points if you can prove that they never sent you a tracking number. If Etsy won't help you then fuck them.
Ain't that their main money driver now?
I'm gonna be real with you people.
I'm not putting something in my body made by some fucking rando with no evidence whatsoever of what kind of materials they made it with.
Maybe, just maybe, this is a good thing because who knows what kind of toxic plastics were being used to make DIWhy sex toys.
The banning of porn is otherwise dumb, of course.
Meanwhile, most sex shops: selling jelly which just straight up melts with time, TPE/TPR which are porous and might melt when boiled and therefore pretty much impossible to keep clean, PVC which they promise doesn't contain phthalates this time, and silicone that has about a 50% chance of actually being platinum cured. DIYers can't be much worse, as far as I know, they either outright state what methods and materials they use or will provide them upon request.
What's wrong with platinum?
Nothing, I think the issue is that the other 50% will be peroxide cured because it's cheaper, though more likely to have fillers and potentially cause skin irritation or allergies.
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That's fair, etsy also sells a lot of adult toys that aren't meant to go inside. They have plenty of bdsm gear made by small creators, I've bought a couple from specific people who I follow and they've been great.
But you trust corpos?
Also, all that stuff is standard movie industry prop material and is well documented. Here's one listing from Smooth-on with the Safety Data Sheet right in front. It would be harder to get the toxic stuff. If you're unsure, just ask the maker for the SDS. If they don't know what that is, then run.
There is wisdom in this one haha
Lame, now Etsy is just going to be a wish or temu resalers hawking cheaply made goods, crack down on that instead Etsy.
"Going to be"?
"crack down" on their business model?
Etsy hasn’t been good for years. But I haven’t found an alternative yet. Anybody know what we should use instead?
started going downhill around the time they went public (2015). chasing higher stock prices instead of attracting quality sellers of actual handmade goods.
What?!? Classic enshittification then.
I hate to say it, but Amazon Handmade is the only one stop shop I've found that can compete so far. I'm hoping that changes soon.
Depending on what you want there are specific marketplaces dealing in it. Aftcra tried to do American handcrafted stuff but they closed down recently. Most of the places are just T-shirt or other textile printing on demand or they give you the tools to make your own storefront without the cohesive "search everything we've got" format of Etsy.
That's what I've found, which means I could be way the fuck off base because I'm just a drunk and I'm not passionate about handmade goods unless I happen to run across them locally.
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Etsy is now dead to me. Any site that bans writings or nipples is not a place that deserves my money.
Hmm. If the concern is the Etsy brand value, I'd just spin it off into a new company that does permit it. If you've already built a network of people selling and buying stuff and the software to do so, terminating it just sends the value of that to zero.
I think it's most likely pressure from payment processors.
Payment processors shouldn't be acting as a moral authority.
Yet again, failure to enforce antitrust law is a big part of the problem.
The government has ceded the entirety of modern currency exchange to private companies, which is still crazy to me, but I honestly don't see people even question it that often. As if it's just a given that online purchases (the increasing majority of all economic activity) is subject purely to a ToS and not the laws and protections granted to us by the government.
As if it’s just a given that online purchases (the increasing majority of all economic activity) is subject purely to a ToS and not the laws and protections granted to us by the government.
What? Of course they're still subject to laws. There's so many laws and precedent based around banking that it requires specialized lawyers.
They shouldn't be, but they have a long history of doing exactly that.
And yet, here we are.
Could be liability? Someone sells a poorly made toy which breaks inside someone. Is etsy concerned they maybe held liable for that sort of thing being allowed to be sold? I don’t know - thinking out loud
Ehh. I mean, if they were just banning sex toys, I could believe something like that, but doesn't explain why they'd ban stuff other than sex toys simultaneously:
Etsy is also banning nudity for human models, including "gluteal clefts and female nipples/areolas." If you're selling a sexy item of clothing, for example, you must censor body parts, use a mannequin, or opt for just photographing the clothing.
"Sexual language" concerning incest or "referencing familial relationships" will also be banned now. The examples Etsy lists are "Daddy's slut" and "Choke me Mommy." As of publication, these terms are still searchable on Etsy, and so is nude content. Searches for "porn" come up blank.
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Even like 'real' dildo manufactures tend to claim the toy is for novelty use only and don't recommend actually using the thing as an insertable object. Adult toys aren't really regulated, because that would mean legitimizing them which is icky to the government. So they'll never really be regulated for health and safety
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Based on the various draconian terms and conditions I've seen on my search for a solution I'd be surprised if this was driven by Etsy. In my opinion this is much more likely to be caused by its payment processor.
Yeah, this stinks of another company coming under pressure from Exodus Cry/Morality in Media lobbying of payment processors.
Wasn't the Hitachi Magic Wand initially sold as a "muscle massager"?
Depending where you look it may still be. My wife uses hers frequently on the back of her head and neck to help with migraines.
Whether or not I am the cause of those migraines I shall neither confirm or deny.
“Insertable” or “designed to be inserted in to”…. Never underestimate the creativity of a horny person…
They're messing with my retirement plans!
No, I'm not selling the stuff! That's the problem. I better get on a shopping spree.
Let me know where all these sellers will take their wares next. I'm hoping it's a fediverse based shopping app.
i'm trying to imagine a fediverse shopping setup where vendors and shoppers are globally trusted in an unhackable way. i'm guessing blockchain is involved?
There seems to be a discussion regarding this topic here. I found several other such conversations too. It could work!
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Where the hell am I supposed to go for custom-made, anatomically correct dinosaur genitalia sex toys? WTF? Please make it make sense.
Bad Dragon
You don't really get the personal touch there though.
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On an unrelated note I recently just came into some massive stock of ornamental desk noodles if anyone is interested.
noooo not my whiskey barrel butt plugs for the groomsmen!
As for non-realistic content — like drawings — total nudity and sex acts "without visible genitalia or anuses" are allowed, but non-realistic images of explicit acts aren't.
Okay okay... So if we don't SEE the anuses, but I ABSOLUTELY know that there ARE anuses under the clothes, and I'm talking I can picture these things vividly, man... So then we're cool right, Etsy?
I have questions about the sex toy space on Etsy that I think can only be answered by a visit there
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