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What's white's best move? (hexbear.net)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by InevitableSwing@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net
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Sometimes it's hard to know how to phrase things in here. I want the Goldilocks Zone. Not to obvious but surely not annoyingly difficult either.

How are these?

Hint: You'll probably want to peek at this.

It's a "!" move. It took Magnus ~3 seconds to find it. It's not crushing or anything. But it is hard to see.

Big hint

Poisoned pawn.

Answer

34.Rd3! It sets a trap. Even GMs can fall into a trap in speed chess.

34...Qxe4 is an a terrible move that means white gets black's queen for the cost of a pawn and a rook.

35.Rf3+. It's a discovered attack on black's queen by white's queen.

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/112464692649?tab=analysis&move=66

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[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Assassinate their own king and declare themselves a republic

[–] booty@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

I'm not good enough at chess to see long lines or anything, but in chess puzzles all I know is to think about forcing moves. In this case I see the rook to f3 or knight to g4 for check, but neither of those seem to accomplish anything. So now I read the hint, and I think it must be something that looks silly immediately. Rook to d3 forces the queen to move, which looks silly since it blocks white queen's line of sight on the e pawn, but now I realize if black actually takes the check then you move the rook to f3 and take the queen. So instead black would have to move the queen back which is just generally kind of a weak move to have to make.

But I don't see a way to force material or a particularly strong position here, that's all I see.

...

Ok, viewing the answer, I guess that's all there was. Puzzles with no clear material to win are hard :(

[–] philluminati@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

I know nothing about chess but I’d have said move the castle one right to put the king in check, then drive the pawns up to pressure it, or move the castle 1 left and pick off work through the two bishops.

[–] daniyeg@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

considering it's magnus, getting drunk seems like a good choice.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Chess.com has something called Titled Tuesdays where titled player play speed chess. I played through some of Magnus's games from this morning. Sometimes I actually laughed. He's a machine that crushes his opponents. He lost a game because his opponent played brilliantly and Magnus then blundered and resigned. It's nice to get a reminder once in a while that he's human after all.

[–] daniyeg@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

yep he's the GOAT but he's still a human. i wonder where his skill level would be if we never invented AI chess bots.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Okay but this isn't white's "best" move because it requires black to blunder and lose. Black doesn't have to take that pawn and taking the pawn leads to a fairly obvious queen trap. I get that it's speed chess but in a puzzle setting even to me, a weak ass player, I wouldn't take that pawn.

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Rook d3, then d1 if the enemy queen decides to not die or smth