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[–] DevCat@lemmy.world 151 points 6 months ago (3 children)

In his Truth Social tirade, Mr Trump slammed the August 2022 at his Florida home and private club.

“WOW! I just came out of the Biden Witch Hunt Trial in Manhattan, the ‘Icebox,’ and was shown Reports that Crooked Joe Biden’s DOJ, in their Illegal and UnConstitutional Raid of Mar-a-Lago, AUTHORIZED THE FBI TO USE DEADLY (LETHAL) FORCE.

What's he complaining about? Isn't he the one who said the President can do no wrong?

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago

He's not complaining. He's establishing precedent.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That seems like a dumb non-complaint that will nevertheless resonate with his paranoid base.

If you get pulled over for just rolling through a stop sign, did you know THE COP BRINGS THEIR GUN WITH THEM when they approach your car???

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[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 80 points 6 months ago (15 children)

There has never been an explanation of how a person who is a known rapist, known liar, known fraudster, known thief of classified documents, known seller of information which got operatives killed, is allowed to run for office. It defies explanation.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I have an explanation:

Propaganda works really well.

The things you listed are what someone on the left thinks of Trump.

Someone who is: Tough on Crime™, Fights for Liberty™, Cares for Children™, a Successful Business Man™, Fights Wokeness™, Highly Intelligent™, Protects Democracy™, and Fights for Christianity™, is what those on the right are made to believe Trump is.

Propagandists are why Trump will win again...

I hate propagandists with every fiber of my being.

Not only do they give cover to this piece of shit, they make the right feel as if WE are oppressing and attacking them! They literally put us all in danger by making the right feel threatened by our existence.

This is NOT the same as us saying POLITICIANS on the right putting us in actual danger and actually oppressing us... One is saying Joe schmoe liberal is the danger, the other is saying Mitch Mcfuckbag in the Senate is a danger to us all.

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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (12 children)

I mean...none of those things are disqualifying for running for office, even if he were convicted of any crimes related to them, which he hasn't been. Trump is a piece of shit, but yes he has a right to run for office. Now why people would still vote for him despite all that, is much more mysterious.

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[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Republicans see whatever they want in their candidates. They even bend to them. I mean "who here has never paid for a prostitute?" Is now something they say to defend Trump. There are no values, their foundation is nothing but their own reflections, and there is no meeting them in the middle, they just move the goal post (which pretty much makes Democrats enablers).

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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think the issue is, if we were to make laws saying you cant run for president if you are convicted of a crime or suspected or whatever, it would give incentives to politicians to try to frame or imprison their political rivals. Then there are things like our drug laws that disproportionately target certain groups. All those people would be barred from running too.

It's definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. One of so many....please help

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

None of those are legally disqualifying. That's the explanation.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Democrats vote for candidates they love; Republicans vote for a party they love.

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[–] quinkin@lemmy.world 61 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So what days of the week is it that the FBI aren't allowed to use deadly force?

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's dependent on wealth, not date.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They actually use a two point ruler method. One axis is wealth. The other that family guy skin color test.

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 61 points 6 months ago

The former president, in a typically loud post on his social media platform Truth Social, claimed that FBI agents had been authorized to use ‘deadly force’ during the raid of his Florida property

Yet another missed opportunity by Merrick Garland's Department of Justice.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All he does is lash out and shit his Depends. He is literally a toddler

[–] gabbagabbahey@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Rage against it all you like, the people have spoken. One of the definitions of "literally" is literally "figuratively" now.

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[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Literally has officially been a contranym for a few years now.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago

Also McDonald Trump

"Please don't be too nice," he said to the audience in Long Island, New York.

"When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just seen them thrown in, rough. I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice,’" he said.

"When you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head you know, the way you put their hand over [their head]," Trump continued, mimicking the motion. "Like, 'Don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody, don’t hit their head.' I said, 'You can take the hand away, OK?'

"I have to tell you, you know, the laws are so horrendously stacked against us, because for years and years, they've been made to protect the criminal. Totally made to protect the criminal. Not the officers. You do something wrong, you're in more jeopardy than they are," he added.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lashes out = pouts like a spoilt lil baby

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

That man has a rabid base.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

'Lashes out' every time I see this shit I just imagine him throwing a tantrum like the petulant geriatric child he is.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

It is strange he never gets flak for the amount of excuses he has for every situation. It is always someone or some group who is against him.

[–] III@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action"

What's the one millionth time...

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Compare how and why people cheer for sports teams. If you're affiliated you will support any statement in favor of the team, while ignoring, suppressing, or attacking any statements to the contrary.

You won't debate a Trump troll out of supporting Trump, because it's about belonging to a group and showing loyalty regardless of facts. Honestly I'm not surprised he's doing so well, consider how techy most of us are and still get overwhelmed by what the Internet is shaping up to be. If you're in your 50's from a poor rural area, what chance have you got to stand against weaponized online propaganda?

We are all like this, by the way. The inclination to blind affiliation with groups is the result of very deep, very old, very well studied cognitive structures and behaviors.

Here's some introductory reading that might fundamentally change how you perceive people's participation in groups:

https://thedecisionlab.com/reference-guide/sociology/conformity
Sherif's autokinetic experiment - if enough people around you believe something, you'll soon believe it too

https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html
A similar experiment performed by Solomon Asch

https://www.simplypsychology.org/robbers-cave.html
The Robber's Cave experiment - arbitrarily divide a group into two, and watch the inevitable descent into inter-group conflict (hopeful note: if you make the groups try to overcome a common obstacle, fighting goes away)

Leon Festinger's Cognitive Dissonance Tests - This is an interesting one as well, here's the idea:

Experiment: Infiltrating a doomsday cult before, during, and after the date of their supposed apocalypse, Festinger and his fellow scientists noted that instead of losing faith, members doubled-down on their beliefs after the ‘end times’ came and went — eventually believing that their work saved the world.

Conclusion: When we have two (or more) incompatible thoughts, we adjust them to minimize internal conflict, what Festinger called ‘cognitive dissonance’ — a term that explains the mind state of those unwilling to accept information that conflicts against their belief.

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[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 6 months ago (36 children)

[he] claimed that FBI agents had been authorized to use ‘deadly force’ during the raid of his Florida property

God, I wish that happened.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 28 points 6 months ago

I mean, aren't they always? If someone starts shooting at an FBI agent they're not going to call their field office for permission to shoot back.

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[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is this enough to lock him away and make him irrelevant again? …probably not

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You mean make him more popular with the pro-russian anti-vax Qanut base? Absolutely.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you think locking him up would make him more popular, you fundamentally don't understand Republicans. They value power and hierarchy. They value doing things and getting away with them.

They are not like Democrats and liberals who value ideas. There are no Republican martyrs. When Nixon resigned, Republicans stopped talking to him.

Don't you remember how quiet it was when Biden was elected? Trump couldn't get on TV anymore. Maybe he would call in to a show or two, but he didn't have any rallies and nobody interviewed him. When Republicans go to jail nobody supports them, because they value hierarchy.

The whole point of hierarchy is that you're untouchable.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

Exactly. As soon as he's out of sight he's forgotten about. There won't be any martyrdom if he goes to jail. They'll just move on to whoever the angry talking heads stear them towards.

[–] shiftymccool@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

The magats love him because the dems hate him. We'll still hate him when he's in prison, so they'll still love him

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure it wasn't Justice Alito's wife that put it there?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

She even stored them upside down. Treacherous shithead.

You might need to have read other stuff to get this joke. It's not my job to provide backstory.

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, Don! The government doesn't belong in anybody's bedroom! You tell 'em!

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Honestly, the most shocking thing for me about that search was the fact they've never reported finding CSAM anywhere along with the classified docs. I seriously expected no less of him.

[–] Heikki@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

MAGA God, "Let those who do not raw dog pornstars while thier wife is at home taking care of their newborn in her own personal bedroom and store classified material in thier pesonal bedrooms where thier wife will not sleep with them, cast the first stone"

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

“…cast the first hamberder”

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Any statement that begins with WOW!!! Is going to be followed with complete bullshit. Trump isn’t even trying to obscure his gaslighting anymore.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Those weren't his he was just holding them for a friend (Putin).

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Maybe his bedroom is just where be conducted his meetings... More hush payments will be necessary.

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