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[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I can see buying multiple guns in different form factors, because they’re a tool like anything else, and you need the right size tool for the job.

As you need proper training on each individual gun i find it hard to believe that there is any person who reasonably needs more than 5 or 6 firearms and that includes sports, hunting and self defense

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You don’t need proper training in every one, you need to be trained in pistols, rifles, and shotguns, and honestly you could probably just do long guns and hand guns, but I just feel like people should really be trained in all 3.

There are just too many differences between hunting rifles and shotguns.

I’m not even going to touch “self defense” rifles like an AR-15 because unless you live out in the sticks you will just be endangering your neighbors with how far they travel.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Actually studies show that a proper .223 or 5.56 JHP (or soft, varmint, or frangible) penetrates less through drywall than 00 buck.

I mean, yeah, the steel core penetrators will zip right through, but that isn't on the gun that's on you not knowing what ammo to use.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The dude made a distinction between an AR and a regular rifle, implying the bullet travels further if it's launched from an AR platform. I don't think they know much about penetration characteristics.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

LOL tbf I thought he was talking about overpenetration, but upon rereading I think you're right haha.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And each gun needs to be zeroed individually, needs to be maintained individually, behaves differently... Someone who has four hunting rifles will be a worse shot than someone who has one and uses it for everything. The notion of needing "specific tools" just stops making sense at that point.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I mean... I had a raccoon problem, right? Mom, dad, three babies. Babies were cute, but were tearing up the place and screaming, OMG, like 1,000 cat fights every night.

But the problem was dad was getting aggressive, hanging out on the roof, and showing ZERO fear of people.

Now I COULD have picked up my grandfathers .30-06, but then the problem then would have been scraping raccoon parts off the roof and nobody has time for that.

So I went the other direction. Took my dad's 1000fps pellet rifle and shot him in the ass. Not only did he set off running, he took mom and babies with him.

So, yeah, right tool for the job. ;)

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, rifles are rifles and pistols are pistols. The skill set downgrades pretty easy, upgrading not so much.

After shooting my .45-70 Government, a .22 pea shooter is no big deal, going the OTHER way though...

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Peas don't kill people. Peasple...

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah, never shot anything more threatening than an old school metal coffee can. Just being a gun owner doesn't make you dangerous.

I own several hammers too, doesn't make me a carpenter. ;)

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Oh I was just making a dumb joke about calling a 22 a pea. I'm a videographer and don't own a camera, haha.