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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Bro, come on man. I don't give a fuck what you call cheese but likening dairy to sexual preference discrimination is a bit much.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

didn't you know that vegans are an oppressed minority? the dairy industry is their oppressor?

[–] MilitantVegan@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are forms of discrimination that happen to vegans, but more importantly, it's the non-human animals who are being oppressed.

[–] shani66@ani.social 6 points 6 months ago

Just noticed the name and lmao

[–] MilitantVegan@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The lgbtq+ communities and vegans are both seeking justice in their own areas of concern, so it's most definitely not extreme to compare the two.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's extreme. The fact that you can't see that it is undermines your entire argument. You're not doing yourself any favors by saying that vegan cheese is as oppressed as gay people have been. No one's being dragged behind a truck because they presented vegan cheese as a dairy product. No one's shouting slurs at you.

You alienate people who might otherwise have agreed with you.

As an example, look at the other end of the spectrum using exactly the same, ridiculous logic. Selling vegan cheese is legal. Selling people was also once legal.

You really believe in veganism and that's great. I'm happy for you. But punch in your weight class my dude. Some people think vegan blue cheese is better, but it lost a competition for not technically being cheese. Some people think chili has beans, but since 1967 beans have been strictly forbidden from ICS cookoffs but the people's choice competitions strictly require them. There are reasonable parallels to be drawn there.

There is no reasonable parallel between vegan cheese in a cheese cookoff, and actual hatred of LGBTQ+ people

[–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're straw manning their argument. They aren't comparing the oppression of LGBTQIA+ folk to the oppression of cheese. The comparison is to the oppression of animals - who most definitely are being dragged behind the truck.

You can, and probably would, make the argument that animals don't deserve the same level of moral consideration as LGBTQIA+ humans, but the vegan argument is that non-human animals experience pain and suffering and deserve the same right to life and non-exploitation for the same reason that any human (LGBTQIA+ or not) does.

[–] MilitantVegan@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

This, thank you.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago

How incredibly privileged of you.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca -5 points 6 months ago

Not its a good comparison.