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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (8 children)

This idea that the US military is just gonna bomb Houston without the people in the Air Force saying, hey, wait a minute, I've got family there, is just stupid. If you think that US Civil War Part II is going to be over quickly and easily, without the same kind of grind that we had the first time, well, I've got some bad news for you.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's not going to be a Civil War. Stop believing all the posturing that Texas is doing. They can't even survive a bit of cold weather (or a bit of hot weather!).

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While I agree that the Texas bullshit is a big nothing burger, I can see scenarios where if Trump is President again and orders the military to do something unconstitutional some parts of the military refuse to carry out the order (as they're supposed to) and other parts of the military (possibly not understanding the constitution) feel duty bound to carry out an order from the commander in chief.

That's something that could get messy.

[–] Kittenstix@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That's more or less what happened at Tiananmen Square.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Probably not. But you know what is going to happen? Abbot is going to stoke fears over undocumented migrants, and say that the feds refused to do anything --while he has been actively working to prevent them from doing anything--allowing Trump to say that he's the only one that has a strong anti-immigrant stance. That gets the MAGA shitheads riled up and excited to vote, despite Republicans accomplishing fuck-all in the last four years, while Biden has managed to deal with a lot of shit.

And if Trump doesn't win? Then all this shit goes to SCOTUS, which further weakens the ability of the federal gov't to do anything for public good.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While you do have a point that is also how every civil war starts. People don't want to fight until they do. Lincoln was in command of the troops in south until he wasn't. Even Ceaser had some mutiny because civil war is not fun. Scary part is it happens anyway.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There were people prior to the US Civil War that actively committed terrorist acts for the political purpose of ending slavery. Some of those actions arguably galvanized public support for a war. Such as John Brown; his raid on the arms depot in Harper's Ferry was used as propaganda in the south to say that the north would never accept slavery, and therefore the "rational" thing to do was to secede.

We've already seen small far-right groups milling around the edges of terrorism; the Proud Boys, Threepers, Patriot Front, etc. They're pushing the needle.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what point you are trying to make here.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Expect to see right-wing militias committing acts of terrorism in an effort to push the Overton window. Abbott is pushing it now, with the idea that states have the right to overrule the federal gov't.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

going by Ukraine, which is the only footage I've seen of real modern warfare: I saw a video of a drone detecting a soldier from high up. The soldier is lying prone aiming their rifle..The drone drops an object. There is a small pop and the soldier dies. It wasn't a big explosion, you couldn't even see blood or a wound, probably just enough to be fatal without causing a horrible mess.

That's what I imagine it'll be. A bunch of people sitting around bored and they don't even know they're dead until one second they are looking at the horizon, the next second their intestines in confusion as their consciousness fades.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -3 points 10 months ago

...Except that's going to be happening on both sides. Because Texas is one of the biggest tech hubs in the US.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This idea that the US military is just gonna bomb Houston

No point. Haven't you learned from two other gulf invasions? Building on the standard operating procedure, it'd be like:

  1. knock out power
  2. oh, wait: end of list

As we've seen, the loss of electricity in texas means everything else shuts off and the people start attacking each other. Outside the schools, even.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The military doesn't even have to shut off the power, they can just wait until winter lmao

[–] makunamatata@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

You are so cruel, yet so right!

[–] Hoomod@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why would they bomb cities? You'd drone strike the leadership and it would have minimal (if any) extra casualties.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -3 points 10 months ago

This goes both ways though, doesn't it? Texas is one of the largest tech hubs in the US, just after California. And a number of companies have been relocating to Texas because it has cheaper corporate taxes. (Screw them workers, gotta earn that dolla.)

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you think that US Civil War Part II is going to be over quickly and easily,

Oh it'll be simple. Any state in rebellion no longer has federal say. You'll easily pass a law that punishes any company headquartered in a rebellious state, and you're done by the afternoon. The oil and gas companies will personally coup Abbott if the federal government refuses them infrastructure otherwise.

[–] Macrocarpa@aussie.zone 5 points 10 months ago

There is zero chance of secession and zero chance of texas being bombed by the us air force

The only shooting will be gun crime and in schools, which is business as usual for the USA and apparently not really even that noteworthy given the level of media coverage.

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

You're assuming that the cities would be on the side of the traitors for some reason.