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They do this all the time. Maybe Biden should call their bluff, execute his powers as Commander in Chief, and order the National Guard in Texas to turn on State Police.

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[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 35 points 9 months ago (4 children)

As someone who actually lives here, I would be very hard pressed to find someone who actually thinks secession is a good idea. It has been years since I've met someone who didn't consider it anything more than a joke or bit of (false) trivia.

Be aware that Lemmy is a pretty radically legt place. It isn't where to go if you want nuanced takes on stupid conservative talking points.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why would anyone want nuanced takes on stupid conservative talking points? They're not worth listening to because they're not grounded in reality or knowledge of how the world works.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You can't have a functional democracy if you don't listen to the other side. That's literally the problem we have right now, a bunch of boomers who scream socialism when you try to feed their starving children or get people access to medical care.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone would disagree with your point, but the other side is literally daring the U.S. military to kill them right now and emitting lout screeching noises. I can't blame anyone for avoiding engagement.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip -5 points 9 months ago

A vocal minority of cockwaffles are daring the federal government to assert its authority.

I'm sure the proportion of conservatives who support this is disappointingly high, but it is not all, or even most (around here). Even if they do support this political fuckery, the transition to a shooting war is not a small leap.

[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Civil war it is then. (they will start it though)

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Rural Texas can be pretty crazy. Cities and the immediate surrounding areas are pretty normal and liberal.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I say this all the time, but that's everywhere in the US. When I first moved to Pennsylvania, a friend told me that it was Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, with Alabama in between. Then, later, we moved to Minnesota, and it was the same thing: The Cities, a couple of outliers like Duluth and the college towns, but MAGA signs everywhere else.

If the electoral college didn't make elections so unfair, politics in the US would be more sane, and more liberal.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, stopped at a gas station out in the middle of nowhere in west Texas, and the old woman at the cash register wouldn't ring up me and my GF because my GF was black. In 2020. A friend almost got in a fight at a bar out in the middle of nowhere in Texas because he had a UT bumper sticker on his truck, and they didn't like "liberals" there.

But, the cities are pretty normal. Have seen police cars painted with rainbows for pride month. A church down the road from me flies a pride flag, etc.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

wouldn't ring up me and my GF because my GF was black.

Holy shit, that's insane. Did you get free gas? It's not like you were going to put it back. Also, do you txink she'd have rung up a black couple? Did she object to the mixed couple part? Wild, man.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

If the electoral college didn’t make elections so unfair, politics in the US would be more sane, and more liberal.

If we ever end up actually having a civil war, it'll be over this.

The majority will be tired of the minorities bs, and they'll insist on a change.

The minority will insist that in never changes, because they would lose their power if it did, and are unwilling to lose the culture war.

And unstoppable force and an immovable object type scenario.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Cities and the immediate surrounding areas are pretty normal and liberal.

I'm not so sure about that.

Comparing Austin to Houston (for example) you'll see two quite different mindsets / philosophies going on. And Dallas/Fort Worth seems even different from the two other cities.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

former texan... man, they really want it, even if it seems bonzo crazy, they'll try to get it. I'm really pushing fam down there to get out before it gets worse. The GOP doesn't care about winning by the rules, as evinced by Abbot and Paxton's disregard for laws they don't like and recent fights with the - checks notes - yeah the supreme court.....

I can't and won't put anything past the texas conservatives / GOP anywhere at this point, if they have the opportunity to wreck things they will - they don't think consequences through and don't care about patriotism in a sense that most people do. I'd should refer to them as Texas Nationalists.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago

While this is true, your elected officials are acting as if it's really on the table. You may not be able to find a Texan who says they want secession, but it's not hard to find one who would vote for it.