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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 82 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The "War on drugs" has been a colossal failure.

Legalize, regulate and tax.

At least then you can take the money out of the cartels and despotic regimes. You can then use the tax money raised to offset the harm these drugs absolutely do through social policies and rehabilitation programs that actually work

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also helps ensure the drugs are clean. The US marijuana legalization process has absolutely not been perfect but the regime of testing for pesticides and mold is very effective.

If cocaine were legal and regulated you wouldn't be hearing all these stories of people dying of fentanyl overdoses from doing shitty cut coke.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It does make me wonder where they swiss government will acquire their coke. With weed, it's fairly easy to grow it wherever you need to, but with coke, you pretty much have to be in certain regions, yeah?

If that's the case, is this still going to be supporting those same cartels? If more countries legalized, we could maybe hope to see legally grown, harvested, and processed coke without all the slave labor and shit. Could be a real boon for South American countries, too, if the cartels lost power, and the cocoa plantations could be nationalized.

I just woke up, so I may be just talking out my ass, though

[–] Tja@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

Good catch. I genuinely don't know if that was me or autocorrect 😄

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm honestly totally ignorant to whether they can be grown indoors at scale outside of their normal growing region, but that's a good point to bring up.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If you go to Peru, you can buy coca leaf tea, grown by legitimate companies, sold entirely legally. It's amazing for adjusting to high altitudes, if you ever go to the Andes, I highly recommend you drink the tea.

There's huge illegal growing operations, but there's legal ones. It's not that hard to grow - I think it likes high altitudes and moisture, but although it's not as easy to grow as "weed", I'm pretty sure it's easier than coffee

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

Not gonna lie I would love to have access to that tea. The powder is great and all but it makes me twitchy and I really only enjoy it on a night out while also drinking. I could see myself using the tea for long work sessions etc.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

That's really cool to know! I doubt I'll ever get the opportunity, but it'll be something I try if I ever do!

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is Peru that country where lots of people, even older ones, with physically demanding jobs chew coca leaves before going to work?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, especially at high altitudes.

I would too... It helps blood flow and is a simulant. Gentler than caffeine too

[–] Mobilityfuture@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Ethically sourced sustainable cocaine

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

The “War on drugs” has been a colossal failure.

That's only true if you believe the lies that the "war on drugs" was actually about drugs. It never has been, it was always about having an excuse to incarcerate and beat down groups they didn't like; minorities, the poor, and the left.

When you look at it that way, it's obvious that the war on drugs is actually a really successful means to an end. Just try not to have a heart and think of the countless lives they ruined to keep a boot on peoples' neck.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

For waging a war on drugs, the US government certainly imported a lot of cocaine into the US.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The war on drugs has been a massive success.

It keeps people poor, desperate, and ashamed to engage in behavior rich people engage in.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com -3 points 11 months ago

that's the war on poverty.

we are talking about the war on drugs.

[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

The soft legalization of medical marijuana in Thailand would affect Singapore's stance on marijuana.