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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Because there’s a big difference between an empty apartment in a city and an empty half the year holiday home out in the bush used by the whole family.

And why not give Australians an advantage in our own country? I’m fine with American companies having to pay more taxes towards us.

[–] DampSquid 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you can afford a holiday home, you have enough of an advantage already

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Mate, I earn below median wage and I could buy a “holiday home”. This isn’t something fancy, it’s a shitty old house in the bush.

What I can’t afford is a house where jobs and people are, the city.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think a lot of people hear holiday home and think like, tropical bungalow. A holiday home here in Sweden usually won't have a sewage connection, and oftentimes not even running water. You'd have to use a potty and bring potable water yourself. You could get these pretty cheap so long as you're in a position where you have some money left over after expenses.

A proper house will easily be 10x the amount a holiday home is.

There are fancier ones of course, that can basically double as a home. Anyone I know that has such a thing owns it as a family (as in grandparents, siblings, etc.).

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think people are picturing that, because that's what's been happening elsewhere; foreign investors using luxury real estate as an investment.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Well yes, not saying those aren’t a thing, but they’re not the only type of holiday homes. It’s not unfeasible for a normal person living above subsistence to be able to afford a holiday home.

Saying “oh you have a holiday home you’ve enough of an advantage” doesn’t really work in all cases.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A holiday home is a second home. If you don't have a home already and that's what you purchase, it's not your holiday home, it's your only home.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

They mention "the city", I interpret it as the same situation as what used to be mine, owned my main residence in a city but not in THE city so prices are lower but most jobs are outside of the city I lived in, that allowed me to buy a second residence out in the woods for cheap, but I couldn't live there full time (no water in winter, floor isn't insulated).

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you don’t live there, it’s not your home.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're almost there.

Just a little further.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 11 months ago

You don’t get it mate.

It’s okay though.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 points 11 months ago

In the house I rent?

[–] minorninth@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

So wouldn’t the fees be proportional to the price? The added taxes on a tiny cheap holiday home would be cheap too.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The best way to give domestic workers an advantage would be to really raise property taxes, but make them subtractable as a tax credit. Credit.. not deductible, so overall tax burden on workers would be lower.

This would be an easy and logical step away from taxing labour and moving to taxation of land.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'd suspect Chinese companies would be a bigger problem than the American ones but what do I know.