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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if anyone wants to come in here screaming, “BAN all the things!”, just don’t.

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This is one of the most intractable problems in America, and I don’t have a clue what can be done about it.

The 2nd amendment needs to go on the dustbin of history. I'm not saying people can't own guns, but the right to should disappear.

"But that's not realistic", you might say. Sure, it's not going to happen any time soon but I think the US will get there eventually.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I agree, maybe I don't. Not 100% sure myself. But adding a constitutional amendment is unthinkable ATM. We couldn't pass an amendment making every 2nd Saturday of March "Chocolate Chip Cookie Day".

What I'm getting at is this: There is zero use talking about dumping the 2A, and neither your opinion nor mine will matter for decades to come. That discussion is off the table. And that's not fatalism, it's reality.

So again; Guns and suicide. Hell we do right now today?

All I got is health care, education, raising the poor from poverty, all the things conservatives won't let us have. Feeling so hopeless on this front, reaching out to anyone that has so much as a baby step.

[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

99% of our gun issues are due to intractable poverty and inequality. 50 years ago we didn't have these issues because Corporations were not so overbalanced. There were perks to many jobs because taxes were very high on profits.

Fix the extreme poverty, housing, and take-home pay and most of these social issue will disappear. The rich and powerful ( Corpos and people) want people to give up rights because their problem is about control more than money.

Giving up rights won't change any suicides because there is no more hope in the US anymore.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

50 years ago we didn't have these issues

This is where I'm coming from. Guns were a non-issue when I was young. I understand it's impossible for young folks to experience the past, but it wasn't like this. At all.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It’s like this now, though. Living in the past doesn’t do anything to protect those suffering today.