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[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pulling the environmentalist voters away from Biden doesn't help his opponents?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the greens are his opponent too. a vote for a green candidate doesn't help the republicans or the democrats.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And who do you think might consider voting for a Green candidate? Certainly not republicans. There is significant overlap between the democracy crowd and the environmentalism crowd. Thus, a significant chunk of green voters would otherwise be democratic voters.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

then i guess the democrats better shift to capture some of them green voters if they want them.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That attitude is precisely why we were stuck with Trump from 2017-2020, and why the country is much worse off now because of it.

I voted for Gary Johnson is 2016 and let me tell you, I learned from my mistake. It seems you have yet to learn that lesson.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I haven't changed the subject at all.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not being evasive

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

it's not whataboutism

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

doubling down doesn't change the facts