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[–] varnia@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (9 children)

If we could fix the issue with non working Google Wallet/Google Pay, that would be great.

But it is also worrying that there there seems to be only Apple and Google Pay in Europe - no alternative solution for wireless paying.

Other than that, Lineage OS on my 9T feels great. Battery life got almost doubled and it feels great to use a device with all current security patched installed. Next step would be to use a completely degoogled version with only FOSS software installed - just for some app there are no real alternatives available: Banking app, Fitness watch app, Carsharing app etc

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bigger problem is the community dying from OEMs not releasing their tools/locking their bootloaders (fuck you Samsung???)

[–] Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Samsung and the carriers. The easiest way for most people to get a phone is on a carrier plan but surprise surprise. They OEM lock devices so that users can’t swap firmware or root. Doing so would allow them to go to another carrier. As if hanging a lease contract over your head wasn’t enough.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't purchase mobiles from carriers. I still don't have choices though. I'm sure there's plenty of people like me.

[–] Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't purchase from carriers then there are lots of options out there. Fair phone makes a pretty decent phone new phone, pixel is great after you degoogle it. Older one plus phones are generally a steal. If you wanna get really adventurous (test bleeding edge totally free software with no restrictions) there's the pinephone. Just be warned that one is straight up unusable as a daily driver imo. There are tons of great options if you purchase through channels other than carriers. What just sucks is phones that you would typically buy that would be unlocked are no longer unlocked if your only choice is through a carrier. I even remember a while back some phones would lock their bootloader when you brought your unlocked phone to their network if they sold a equivalent version of the device. I haven't seen that in nearly 10 years though and I think it had something to do with oversight on manufacturers behalf and poor choice of distribution of firmware.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FP5 is not available in the US, and FP4 has about 2-3 years of support left.

Pixel is the only real option, at least till Google does the embrace and extinguish strategy and fucks the custom ROM community over.

OnePlus devices no longer have much custom ROM support because they took away the unbrick tool.

I think Nokia devices don't have an unbrick tool either.

Motorola devices can be unlocked but not much custom ROM support (at least, from Lineage OS) either.

Which options are you talking about? I can hardly see anything other than the Pixels for devices released in 2023 in terms of custom ROMs. At this rate, I'm OK with having to manually patch security updates with Magisk every time and sideload (need to figure out how I will back up my device, do not fancy a factory reset every time)

Edit: would you happen to know how one can apply security patches with KernelSU?

[–] mWH@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Fitness watch app

Check out Gadgetbridge!

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

Ironically, I always end up rooting lineage just to pass the security checks to make Google pay work. Smooth one Google

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I pay with my phone using grapheneOS and the banking app of my bank, it works perfectly without Google-Pay.

Check out /e/os, the only problem I found is it is more difficult to interact with some google services and others are not supported but you can always use a browser to access them

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What even is the purpose of Google Pay? I don't know anyone who actually uses it but some people act like its a necessity? We have cards that you can just tap these days. Isnt that making Google and Apple Pay useless?

[–] offbyone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It allows you to pay with your phone? I don't even carry a wallet around anymore, just my phone.

I don't know where you're from, but in the UK it's pretty common to pay with Google Pay or Apple Pay. Even had the advantage of allowing you to pay a higher amount than you could with a contactless card.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The point is not needing your card. Where I'm from using apple/google/Samsung pay is very popular. Many young people don't even regularly carry their wallet.

[–] Pat@kbin.run 4 points 1 year ago

magisk delta + play integrity fix has worked well for me. using google wallet without an issue

[–] dontblink@feddit.it -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's Bitcoin and lightning network :)

[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

You can't pay with it at the till, though.