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Toyota to offer manual gearbox in next-generation electric cars (www.autocar.co.uk)

submitted 1 year ago by i_am_not_a_robot to c/evs

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I don't really see the point of this. It's just adding complexity for the sake of it. As far as I can tell when you change gear it just changes some software parameters, there are no physical gears. Yet there's a clutch and the ability to stall?

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[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

My car has a CVT and it has shift paddles that are totally unnecessary.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They also add a delay between “gears” because there was too many complaints that the vehicles wasn’t changing gears.

Yeah people are stupid.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that what it is? I feel a bump at 80km and always think "CVT my ass"

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The paddle shifters have a usecase, it allows you to select portions of the cvt to increase acceleration or reduce road noise. The point of the cvt is to keep the vehicle at the most efficient rpm for fuel, which unfortunately is rather high and noisy.

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're in mountains, and especially if you're towing a trailer, you need those.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know about trailers, but my EV makes light work of mountains.

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Is my comment showing up as a reply to the one about CVTs with paddle shifts because that's what it's in reference to. I feel like kbin has been putting my replys in the wrong places.

With all the trque and regen EVs should be fine in hills even with trailers.

[–] IthronMorn@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh, it's for going downhill.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that what the brakes are for?

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

On a long down hill if you use your brakes too much you risk brake fade and glazing. With electric you need regen or if you have no more room in the battery then you need resistive braking. With an ICE you need to be able to lock into a lower gear. Standard behavior eith a cvt is to gear as high as possible when not under load so you need "manual mode" and the fake gears to pick a ratio with good resistence.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You should be using the regenerative braking…….

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was just thinking that a cvt would be better for an ev...

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

They don’t need a transmission at all though