this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2023
549 points (95.1% liked)

News

22890 readers
4107 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Neato@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it does. People addicted to drugs have mental issues: addiction. That will warp their judgement. Medically-assisted dying is something that needs to be legal. But the doctors involved need to be sure that the dying properly consents and that is going to be MUCH harder when they have to judge it through a lens of addition.

To me this reads just shy of saying medically assisted dying is now legal for people with mental health issues. Which would 100% be compared to what the Nazis did to the mentally and physically disabled.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The Nazis didn’t give those (or many people) a choice; it was forced upon them. This isn’t comparable at all.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If your choice is no treatment vs suicide, that's not really a choice, either.

Also you can't really give someone a choice in life vs death when their mental state is unstable.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Treatment is an option. And people are evaluated before being allowed to end their lives this way.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ideally. But if that's the case, why limit it to people with drug addictions? Why limit it to the vulnerable and mentally impaired? Drug addicts aren't usually terminal patients. What if this was applied but only to overweight people? Or smokers? Or the poor?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You’re free to ponder those questions, but what California and Canada are doing has nothing to do with the Nazis.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's what cohersion is for.

The Nazis also gave the Jews a chance leave Germany at first.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What evidence do you have of coercion or of any addicts being driven out of/told to leave Cali or Canada?