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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh and what do you think would happen the second they open up Palestine? Would they get hugs and kisses or knives and mass raping?

Neither. That's a strawman.

Let's look at 7/10 as an example of what happens when Israelis don't supervise entry to their country by Palestinians.

That's a pointless thing to look at as long as you don't address the underlying inequality and segregation Israel is imposing. Israel is only adding a second problem to address with the first problem that they created. Without doing away with both of them either one in isolation will not be adequate.

But on the other hand, neither would Palestinians agree to be part of Israel.

What's your source for this? The fact that they won't allow Palestinians to be part of Israel does not mean that Palestinians wouldn't want to be. The problem is Israel won't let them in the first place. If they even did the bare minimum of taking and screening families permitting them to leave Gaza and integrating them into society. This would be a whole different situation. The fact that they locked them down treating them like animals. Then act surprised when they get the retaliation they were looking for in return. Really seems disingenuous.

Start looking at other media sites besides al jazira

Oh cool another straw man. Do you actually have anything of value to say? Or are you just going to continue to try to debate dishonestly?

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

First, how is that a strawman? You said Israel should open up Palestine, I wrote why Israel shouldn't. Either you're speaking unknown terms I don't understand or you don't know what strawman argument means.

Secondly, I again advice you to look at more views of this conflict. "The ask project" is a good one asking Israelies and Palestinians questions about hotly debated topics. There you'll find your answer as to what'll happen when Israel opens Palestine. Palestinians don't want to be part of Israel, they want Israel destroyed. You listening to left media is good and keeps you updated under one side of the conflict, but doesn't reflect the will of the people living there and what happens practically.

The inequality and segregation by Israel is supposing Palestinians want to be integrated into Israel and don't be allowed to. But the truth is that amongst peaceful Palestinians there are plenty of Iran and ISIS backed people who want to destroy the western world - and Israel to them seems like the frontline. So no, Israel should not stop their segregation, because that's the only thing keeping them alive to this day.