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Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

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[–] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The difference is our electoral system doesn't let the 30% of racist pieces of shit run the entire country.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fair enough. I think every democracy needs to have the compulsory voting system that Australia does.

The perceptual downside to the system though is that it definitively and accurately tells you out of the entire population the amount that are bigoted POS'.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There were many ATSI people who voted no because they want treaty, not an advisory committee with no veto powers.

Not everyone who voted no is racist and proclaiming they are is far more reminiscent of US divisive politics than how Australian politics works.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, the problem is it didn't change the political process enough?

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For progressive no voters, that is correct.

There is of course an element of society who want to ignore or bury any discourse on issues impacting ATSI Australians but they’re not the full picture either.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 5 points 1 year ago

First person who's bothered to try and understand the result rather than denouncing the country. The No campaign was deliberately divisive, like Abbott's 2013 election or Howard's manipulation of the republic referendum in 1999. Not only that, lack of political engagement and awareness - most embarrassingly from our most prominent left party, the Greens, who get so embroiled in internecine disputes that they seem not to really get what a political party does. The LNP may not be doing well at the moment but they're a true coalition and trusted voting bloc.

In short, people just don't want to run headlong into progressive politics without thinking it through. We're tired of government interference following years of lockdowns, don't trust our state and federal governments because of repeated betrayal by the Morrison government and broken promises there and elsewhere, and Indigenous people were divided and made the perfect the enemy of the good.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the inherent flaw in democracy in general. If most people are shit, the government will also be shit

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That's why access to quality education is tantamount to functioning democracy.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe not but we just saw that it's a fuckin' lot more than just 30 for you guys!

You actually think 55% of Australians are racist?

You understand that the vast majority of No voters voted that way because they didn't understand what it was, and the No campaign very deliberately did everything they could to make it unclear and confusing.