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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Hell, my fucking $2000 OLED came with a shit processor and only 8GB of storage; it's laggy as fuck and only had room for one more app. Had to remove a bunch of crap via ADB just for the TV to be usable. It's annoying as fuck that even high-end TVs come with the equivalent of a $50 Chinese phone under the hood.

Does anyone know of a box I can plug into the TV that actually has a decent CPU, at least 12GB of RAM, and usable storage space? It also needs to run on Android, and have a HDMI 2.1 port for 4K 120Hz support with HDR. I watch a lot of HFR content and stream PC games so this is a must. The remote should also be able to control the TV (including entering the menu), and the Dolby Atmos receiver too. Last thing I want is for the wife to complain about having to juggle 2 or 3 remotes just to watch Stremio.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Use an old computer. Get a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse controller. I have only ever had my TVs run by computer since I the mid 2000s. fuck smart TVs what a shit show.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Old computers don't have HDMI 2.1 support, silly. I'd have to buy a modern GPU, and I don't want to spend hundreds just for a slightly faster interface.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I've been doing this since the early 2000's as well. Everything through a desktop.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

one day my 2006 42" sony bravia is going to die. I will be very sad I have to by some new age bullshit, but at the very least ill be happy I dont have to deal with their spyware posing as convenience when the TV is permanently set to input 1 lol.

.....thinking about it, maybe I should buy a new TV now, just incase the TV's 5 years from now dont allow you to play from a physical input connection. Like a preemptive move in the endless game of enshitification chicken were all playing with companies.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Are you me? We bought the same tv around the same time. Thing has been across the country several times in moves and still keeps on keeping on. There is a local hotel selling off their old TVs (same one) for $50/each. I'll be grabbing one of those next week for sure.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm happy for you but unfortunately this isn't a solution for me, because old PCs don't have HDMI 2.1 support. I would have to buy a modern GPU, and I rather not spend hundreds.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Yea I don't fuck with 4K. I grew up with a tube tv you had to smack to make the picture work when it was humid out. I'm not guiding missiles or anything.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

Because those 2k TVs would quickly become 2.5k because of the ads sold for promotion.
Or to improve your profit margin

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/shield/android-tv/nvidia-shield---android-tv---shield---see-full-specs/

I use this for both regular TV streaming apps, Twitch, YouTube and Jellyfin.

and my non-technical wife both uses it and loves it because it's way faster than your usual built in TV apps.

I picked it up from my local best buy.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Thanks for the suggestion but it doesn't seem to support Dolby Atmos/DTS:X. Just plain 5.1/7.1. I have a 5.1.4 setup.

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

at least 12GB of RAM,

Doesn't exist and frankly not necessary. At present nothing needs this much RAM and I say this as a power user who runs a local media server and is familiar with concepts such as running Plex with remote transcoding on devices such as the Shield. The only things that come close to this much RAM might be recent generation gaming consoles like Xbox or Playstation but they don't run Android and aren't built for streaming, remote controls are third party accessories.

Other problems: I'm unaware of any devices even without the high RAM request that exist that fulfill all of those asks. Particularly 4k 120hz seems to be something no one has any interest in putting in a streaming box despite plenty of them having HDMI 2.1. I checked and even Apple TV 4K's do not support 120hz despite having the right hardware for it.

Fact is commercial streaming services which these devices exist to cater to have no interest in 120fps/hz content, even 60fps with dolby vision is kind of more bandwidth than they like using and they upcharge premiums for it.

Basically your choices are (all these assume giving up the RAM ask):

  • Run two devices, one for local streaming of things like games and 120fps content, one for watching streaming services that's Android TV certified and will get you 4k content from them (at only 60fps). Cost is probably going to be north of $300. You can with this option get a mini-PC and kind of hack together a game streaming solution and if you want you can put 12GB of RAM in it but you won't need them.
  • Buy something that ticks most of the boxes but either give up the ability to stream 4K content from commercial services (because no Android TV certification) OR give up the 120fps demand. If you're willing to give up the 120hz you might look into the Dune-HD premier 4k pro which has full Android TV support and certification for 4K streaming from all the major services, does 4k 60fps, has very impressive specs for a streaming device (top of the line) and is $200 and you can add an SSD to increase the storage from acceptable 32GB to well over a TB if desired. Otherwise if you're willing to give up 4K from commercial streaming services and get only 1080p from them they have a few 8K devices that do have support for 120fps but the price doubles and if you want 4k on the major streaming services you'll need another device.

Other options if you're willing to give up the 120hz demand would be the Nvidia Shield Pro. As to a remote that controls everything, I believe the Dune-HD remotes do have that capability but honestly your wants are really specific and high end. Most people would use two boxes if they HAD to have all you've asked for.

You might also consider waiting to see if Valve does release a streaming device like they've teased. If Valve does something like that it might finally be the golden one that has 120hz support though you're still not going to get 12GB of RAM. But you're looking at waiting a year at least I think even if that does materialize and it may not.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

You can have cheap or you can have 4k 120Hz with HDR.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Should have hit tcl bro. Just got the new 85 oled android TV is faaaaaaast

[–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck TCL. I bought one of their TVs a few years ago. Within a year the backlights went out. Maybe it was just really bad luck, but it turned me off from their products.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Probably just bad luck, they make some screens for LG and Samsung too. They aren't like a nobody brand