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I didn't mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(

I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. "Everything's lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time") type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I've heard from women irl a lot.

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[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you see something like this and get angry at women, you have a problem.

At best it's a problem with reading comprehension. At worst, you're worried that things like this could get in the way of your murdering-women hobby.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My problem with this post is exactly the same I have with any broad assumptions over a poorly defined group: taken as fact, they're false.

Of course it's meant to make a point, and a very valid one. But I'll point out that there are many places in the world where a young woman can go out for a walk at night without fear of never being seen again, and it's not because there's fewer men, so perhaps we should focus on the conditions to achieve this?

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

If the meme was clearly an assertion of fact that men in general love murdering women, yes

Personally I read it as "[some] men love murdering"

Statistically most people don't get murdered, but air-travel is also very safe, and people are still afraid of flying. If a meme about wanting to travel said "shame that planes crash" people probably wouldn't be all angry about it. Or perhaps they would, people* are weird

(* again [some] people)

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Probably wouldn't, but some might be a bit miffed if someone said "shame men love crashing planes". Even though it's true most commercial pilots are men, so most plane crashes are done by men.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

If there were as many man and women pilots, and the vast majority of airline crashes were by men and intentional, that would certainly be worth discussing.

I bet it would still make some men angry though, as people often have an emotional knee-jerk reaction to defend what they see as their in-group. That reaction is not always helpful. Instinctively seeing "men" as your team and "women" as an opposing team leads to all kinds of BS we'd be better off without.

For fairness, it's also not great when women see "women" as their team and "men" as the enemy. It doesn't lead to quite as many rapes and murders though.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

It is a shame that pilots love to commit plane crashes, though. Fuck pilots.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

That's an interesting point. I'm sure you're right, it would not trigger anger fits on so many people, by a long shot.

It still irks me tough, because all planes fly (or they wouldn't be a plane), that's a defining characteristic. But planes in general don't crash, and conflating the two just adds to the fear of planes and does very little for our overall safety.

I'm not arguing they're not dangerous, because they certainly are. But I think the important discussion is why they can crash, and how we can prevent that.

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world -2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I've been told my whole life tbat i can't go out at night alone because it 's unsafe. Why is it unsafe? Because there are men out there. Apparently it's ok for the men in my life to say other men are dangerous but it's not ok for me to say that men are dangerous. A plague on both your houses. You are all unsafe.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I don't think anyone could disagree with you, if they're being honest, men are dangerous. I was hoping for a discussion on why, or if, we can live as a society without one half being afraid of the other, but I'll take the plague I suppose.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Noooo not my woman murdering hobby >.<

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

I'm sorry, I know it's a hobby with long traditions, but woke people have ruined it