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Proton Mail, known for its privacy-first email services, faced backlash after CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party and its antitrust stance.

The company initially posted and deleted a statement supporting Yen’s comments, later claiming an “internal miscommunication” and reiterating its political neutrality.

Critics question Proton’s impartiality, particularly as it cooperates with Swiss authorities on legal data requests.

Privacy advocates warn that political alignments could undermine trust, especially for Proton’s users—journalists and activists wary of government surveillance under administrations like Trump’s.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 247 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Just when I'm done migrating all my email shit to Proton, the CEO turns out to be a nazi. A classic.

[–] wax@feddit.nu 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Same. Considered getting a domain for my email, but ended up just switching directly to the protonmail domain. Regretting that now.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Getting your own domain is the best thing you can do, regardless of provider - it means they can't lock you in anymore.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I gotta get a personal domain just for email, I don't really want my personal life mixed in with our small business domain; both due to the nature of the products and because I don't want to dox myself on either side of the work/life gulf. It's a shame too, because I am actually proud of our garage business.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

I totally get that; I have three domains (work, personal, and one only for online services / aliases)

[–] ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They’re relatively cheap. I’ve had one for years, though I don’t use it for email forwarding.

Weird shit also happens if send mail isn’t coming from a big provider :(

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I have no desire to try to host smtp. I'm thinking I could run my own imap and pull mail from various accounts and then just send mail through proton or tula or whoever. Someone already trusted.

[–] wax@feddit.nu 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And the main reason I didn't get a domain? Because I couldn't come up with a good domain name. Naming stuff is always hard.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It is hard. I made up a name that sounds like it would be a webmail provider (it has "mail" in the name).

[–] Rogue 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Surely the point of your own domain is to personalise it? Why would you go for something generic?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

I use it with aliases for online signups, so the genericness is a feature, not a bug.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But it’s awful for privacy, because everything is on one domain.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Email is already bad for privacy, and WHOIS protection solves most of the rest. And obviously don't buy a personally-identifiable domain if that's a concern.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only way to make sure your email isn’t run by a Nazi is to run it yourself.

Unless you’re a Nazi in which case FUCK OFF

[–] eclipse@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even for the technically literate, running a mail server is an ongoing nightmare. If you think it's easy, you're not doing it right.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Which is why I let my email be run by Nazis.

Seriously I wish I could quit them but it’s too damn hard.

[–] potate@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

Dagnabbit - I went all in on Proton as well. Why is it so hard to find an email provider that respects privacy and isn't run by people with 'problematic' views (i.e. people who wish people like me didn't exist)

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I did some more research and this is no joke:

https://www.ibtimes.com/tech-ceos-europe-call-europe-first-mentality-following-trumps-us-first-advocacy-3751551

Globalism is bad, being fair is bad, Europe-first, huh I wonder where we've heard this kind of rhetoric before.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The EU was initially a good idea, but it got too involved in national politics (anyone remembers the banana guideline that reads like a meme?). I still think, the EU is fine and we should keep it, but it should be a defensive alliance first and foremost and not some fucking merger that is advocating for the rich. Sadly, it's the rich that have the influence because, well, money and they are going to abuse it.

A call for isolation and autarky is a massive red flag and nothing good will ever happen after that, it always leads to exploitation and violence. The reason CEOs don't like globalism is because it's harder to create a monopoly on a global market than regional and capitalism strives for those because it hates competition.

[–] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ar eyou saying Proton's CEO is a Nazi? Far as I can tell he isn't

Edit: your message is confusing which is why I ask

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

I guess I'm lucky he came out with this shit just as I was about to migrate.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 8 points 2 days ago

#BigSame Friend.

I was looking at Tutanota for a bit. Guess I'm need to bust open that research again.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Signed up last month because I had something to protect. Looking into Tuta. Anyone know a comparable free vpn?

[–] RavingGrob@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I switched to Mullvad, works pretty well so far, for my needs.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I am aware of mullvad, and it sounds very good. However, I was looking for a free vpn, as I use vpn service very rarely.