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Amazon gives non-Prime members free shipping at $35 or more of eligible items. Instead of simply letting users get the product with free shipping, they've added a discount that prices it exactly one cent below the $35 limit, while only subsidizing the price with $3.38, which is about half of what they'll then charge you for shipping.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 204 points 3 days ago (28 children)

Easy fix, don't buy from Amazon.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I try to when I can, but I tend to have major difficulties doing so.

I tried Ebay, they restricted my account and said the only way for me to get it un-restricted was to buy a product from a limited set of brand-new partner suppliers (e.g. Logitech, HP, etc) that were all over $100, and nothing I actually needed.

I tried buying some chargers from Anker and they also restricted me and said they wouldn't let me make a purchase because my email seemed suspicious (I don't use Gmail), so I had to go back to Amazon and buy it there instead for practically the same price, even though it would have actually been cheaper on Anker's own website since they had a discount code that would have worked for my order.

I bought something on Target because I'd been given a Target gift card, Target cancelled my order 3 times and made me contact customer service to remove an invisible hold on my account.

I frequently try checking third-party sites for the same products, and the prices are way higher (e.g. A product I plan on purchasing is $80 on the manufacturer's site, and $58 on Amazon, with the price frequently dropping to $38) because Amazon literally mandates that the cheapest price must be on Amazon. Often times, these price differences are so drastic that I could end up paying double for the same product.

I also tend to get Amazon gift cards from relatives even though they already know I dislike using Amazon when I don't have to, so it's often somewhat unavoidable.

Don't get me wrong, those are just the worst instances so far. I've bought quite a few items from elsewhere before without issues, it's just that I tend to have the occasional issue that makes it practically impossible to buy elsewhere.

Believe me, I do my best to not have to spend money on Amazon, but it's either so drastically more expensive that it's simply not reasonable to buy elsewhere, or for various reasons I mentioned before, I'm not even capable of placing an order in the first place.

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What in the world are you doing to get restricted and cancelled at different sites?

[–] needanke@feddit.org 21 points 2 days ago

Yeah fr, I do lots of my online shoping with a vpn, an adblocker, blocking non-necessary java scripts and using my own e-Mail domain or a temporary adress from my provider and have never been blocked or got restricted.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

The only things I can think of is credit card charge backs or harassing support services, but if they were doing that, it's not like they would admit it on Lemmy 😂

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't ask me, I've been asking the same question myself 😅

The only things that had originally come to mind were my accounts on those stores being new (but who makes an account there then just lets it sit for like a week), me using virtual cards to avoid using the same payment info across different sites (but many other people do that with no issues), using my non-gmail email (but other people also do that with no issues), ad & JS canvas blocking (but as needanke mentioned earlier, they don't seem to have problems), or possibly just something with my address itself making its way onto some shared-around list of addresses not to ship to for some reason, but none of these explanations really seem to make sense.

I'm genuinely just as stumped as you are.

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It might be your physical address. I'm not sure how long youve lived there but maybe someone who lived there before you ran a bunch of charge back scams or something and got put on a list somewhere. If that is the case then your address plus prepaid card and privacy respecting email will throw up red flags for any retailer that uses that list.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

I've been here for over 15 years, I have other people who live with me but they never do anything weird when it comes to chargebacks/refunds. I still have no idea why retailers hate my address so much 😭

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'll put my bet that your computer is throwing false flags with payment/fraud detection. It could be the VPN and JavaScript blocking things.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 days ago

Sounds like you need to make a boring Gmail account just for buying online.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

What's the alternative? The other places I can order a big box of cheap stuff from (Walmart, Target) are run by even worse people and have even worse service.

I once ordered porcelain plates from target and they arrived with no packaging. I don't mean insufficient packaging, I mean four plates just thrown in a giant box with absolutely nothing else. Somehow 3 were not broken.

Right now I want 1) creatine and 2) cheap t-shirts and I don't wanna pay for shipping them separately. I can't find any place where I can get both at a reasonable price besides one of the above. I'm actually considering a costco membership but I'm only going to ever order online from them so I doubt it's worth their stupid membership.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Generally, I believe the convenience of cheap shit delivered to your door comes at the invisible cost of exploitative labor practices and/or excessive consumerism by the means of low quality crap that will need to be replaced regularly or through "buy more and save" deals. If you want to avoid supporting that, you're probably going to have to spend a few extra bucks buying from a smaller business or buying secondhand.

Convenience isn't free and if we want to reduce our dependence on harmful institutions we're going to have to make some sacrifices.

[–] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I do this. But, I'm also lucky to live in a city with second hand shit everywhere. Not everyone lives in a city.

But, google shopping will tell you an alternative store to buy most things online. And compare costs for you. This gets tricky if you're also trying to cut google out of your life though. There really is no ethical consumption under capitalism ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] probably2high@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Well, in the case of the OP, the alternative is the manufacturer: https://www.ifixit.com/Tools

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shop for shit on amazon then buy it from the manufacturers website.

[–] Jrockwar 6 points 2 days ago

I recently discovered dupe.com , which works quite well by giving it an Amazon link and finding it on potentially cheaper, definitely non-Bezos websites.

[–] SamboT@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Either buy more expensive shirts or stop buying creatine if you want to stop ripping them

[–] rhadamanth_nemes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

This comment should be higher lol

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Walmart and Target aren't run by worse people. I've never heard of Target or even Walmart employees being forced to piss in bottles or a robot will fire them.

They said, they are still bad people, as retail capitalists, but are you ready to have that conversation?

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Retail capitalists are fine, but Amazon, Walmart, and Target all did the maga loyalty thing after Trump's win. I don't need to buy from someone who shares my politics or even doesn't disagree with me, I just need them to not be outright oligarchs using my money to support dictators.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good luck finding that unicorn.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

there is no ethical consumption under capitalism

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Target also have free 2 day shipping and 5% discount if you use their "Red Card", which is free. It's available as a debit or credit card. I'm using the debit card version which doesn't require a credit check or impact your credit score.

Sure, it lets them track what you buy, but they can already do that if you pay with credit or debit card. The only way to not get tracked is by paying cash or buying prepaid Visa/Mastercard gift cards and swapping them periodically.

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I don't want to simp for Target too much, but the union DCs I've been in seem to treat their employees pretty good. No idea about the stores though, I've only seen their distribution centers.

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago
  1. GNC
  2. Thrift store

Just a heads up on the Costco online thing, their selection isn’t that expansive, so it can’t replace Amazon for you. You’re at the whims of what item and brand they decide to carry and when.

[–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

What's wrong with Target? Only thing I heard was backlash from putting out certain kinds of lgbtq+ designs and then reacting by pulling those back (and getting backlash again for that).

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[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Support your local businesses. Unless its a super niche product, just buy it local

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 days ago

Normally cheaper on eBay in my experience. Pretty rare that I will use Amazon these days

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