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Only a fellow Boomer like Maher would think anything makes Trump look cool. Even most of the people who voted for him don't think that.

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[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Honestly I agree with Bill that democrats need to ... let's say do a revision of their approach. Because whatever they did in the past years is clearly not working

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

I mean that's not exactly an original thought. The "original thought" part, however, is really fucking stupid.

Only the MAGA people think he's cool. The rest of the people who voted for him just thought he was better than Harris. Which is far from the same thing.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You mean the “at least we’re not Republicans” approach? The problem with that is, they’d actually have to advocate for positive change. Things that benefit Americans. But that’s antithetical to liberalism, because it means being accountable to people rather than the wealthy ruling class.

Remember when Biden told big donors “nothing will fundamentally change” and then nothing fundamentally changed? Yeah, literally everyone who isn’t a billionaire is sick of that.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You don’t think Democrats advocated for any positive change?

I can think of at least a half dozen major initiatives cemented by legislation, and more that couldn’t pass Republican controlled congresses.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

And by past years, you mean basically everything since 1996.

The fact Obama got elected at all is just a statement to how much people resented the idea of Bush term 3 (in the form of McCain who was campaigning on the idea of being a continuation of Bush in every way).

And Biden got elected because people were sick of trumps fuckery......yet here we are. Yet again....

The democrats need to get off their ass, and not worry about pleasing the right. Go full-on "public services and universal health care for all, every pothole filled, elderly cared for.

Instead, they're trying to be republican lite.....which isn't going to work.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And I am not convinced that four more years of Trump will teach the Dems a damn thing. They need to go hard left when Republicans go hard right. Instead, after this term, they will still be trying to court the elusive, and nonexistent, "centrist" contingent.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced Democrats will be anything but an in name only opposition party with a Russian-style election in four years. If they even bother with an election.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Quite possible.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

They've already decided to blame the voters again instead of realizing their steadfast defense of their corporate owners over their actual constituents is what keeps chasing the voters away