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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 105 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Making trans people with combat knowlodge unemployed for a transphobic reason doesn't seem like a good idea.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 65 points 1 day ago (3 children)

chuds in the US military will never do something good, there's a whole thing about homeless "veterans", never saw them revolt

[–] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 39 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The Bonus Army did, and the feds gassed them in the middle of DC.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 23 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Bonus Army was filled with ex-conscripts. Modern veterans were all volunteers, so they are bootlickers or selfish opportunists at heart without any type of solidarity. They lack the ingredients for an uprising

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 5 points 18 hours ago

People can be radicalized within the service, like Aaron Bushnell.

But absent conscription I don't think the armed forces are fertile grounds, which is an absolute shame.

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 14 points 23 hours ago

Lol beat me to it

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 30 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

We actually did have unemployed (a lot of homeless as well) veterans revolt back in 1932 during the Great Depression, demanding early payment of their service bonus certificates.
About 43,000 of them camped with their families on the White House lawn for a while, and the president at the time, Herbert Hoover, sent tanks and bayonets in and they killed a few people and injured dozens. Patton led the charge and Eisenhower wrote the military report endorsing the action (though he claims he told Patton not to do it). It was called the "Bonus Army" if you want to do some more reading.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

1932, that's older than Joe Biden Also it's ignoring an important part, most U.S. army members aren't from poor families anymore, most can afford not killing kids for a job.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 21 points 21 hours ago

They were also conscripts from WW1, not volunteer mercenaries who joined up with glee to kill Muslims

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Some of them were also suspected of being involved with the Business Plot, which would have ushered in a Nazi dictatorship. Luckily they approached the wrong general to carry out the plot, but the plan was to use the Bonus Army to do it since they found enough sympathizers to go along with it.

Who knows, though. Had they approached officers in charge of the Bonus Army directly, maybe they would have been rebuffed all the same.

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's wild, I've never heard this side of the story!

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 12 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

The general they approached was Smedley Butler (I forgot to mention). He wrote War is a Racket, which you've probably heard of or read.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Besides WW1 vets. Many post-vietnam vets turned in far-right terrorists. Oklahoma City bombing is an example of this. I guess the only recent cool veteran was Chris Dorner.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 20 hours ago

It's as stupid as expecting SS officers to be leftist revolutionaires post WWII, no mf

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 6 points 19 hours ago

Even then Chris Dorner was more Cop than Troop and was upset about other cops being racist to him more than anything.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On the other hand, it seems like a tactical victory for communism

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

at the very least a great opportunity for agitprop

[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope any of them with good opsec manage to leak a whole bunch of classified information on their way out.

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We have Chelsea Manning, but what about Chelsea Manning 2

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 9 points 23 hours ago

Second Manning