It looks like they have some kind of whitelist set up, limiting federation to the big instances, which seems like a strange thing for one of the small instances to do.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you just answered your own question. If ponder.cat isn't on their white list, content won't federate.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes. The question I'm asking is, why?

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

That's a question for the admins there, but HC is the spiritual successor of, and ran by the same team as, ExplodingHeads. EH was frequently defederated for homophobia, transphobia, bigotry, racism, conspiracy, brigading, hate speech, and general toxicity.

I'm not sure if they've cleaned up their act since rebranding, but maybe they figured they'd start out with just the big instances since they were frequently de-federated before?

Context:

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Preemptive defederation, along the same lines as, "You can't fire me, I quit!"?

I'm just trying to wrap my head around it. I'm was asking because another of their communities is coming up for posting in my community tool. Thanks for the link.

We’re not federated because it’s just too much drama and not enough reward. There are too many instances, many of them inactive, lots of people uploading sketchy shit which federates across, it’s impossible to keep tabs on everything and lots of resources go into hosting that bloat which nobody here would care about. Fediverse politics are also cancer and every shitty admin thinks they’re important somehow.

I’m not opposed to federating selectively, with your instance for example. I mostly care about knowing that you actively admin it and I don’t have to worry about dodgy content making its way across here - if that’s the case and you’re keen, let me know.

My God.

Since they've decided I'm a shitty admin, I've instructed the community posting tool to skip over their stuff, and I consider the matter closed. I wish them luck.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's nice when the uh, um, jerks? self-segregate. Saves so much time having to filter them out.

(Also it was kinda obvious they were twats when their admin team was spamming new community communities with endless stupid groups.)

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

their admin team was spamming new community communities with endless stupid groups.

You did not find that chaos hilarious?

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 7 points 2 months ago

The first one or two, maybe. The next 50, eh not quite as much.

I suppose I'm just a boomer who doesn't get the kids anymore?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 2 months ago

Any man who must say, "I am hilarious," is no true hilarious.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 2 months ago

I didn't mind their crazy half-baked idea communities, but they never committed to the bit. Plus with their whole federation issue, when people did comment there to try to make something happen, there was no response.....

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

My theory is that they're doing it to try and avoid defederation and bide their time until they can figure out a way to circumvent it, like was done with Mastodon defederation with activitypub-troll. Thankfully many instances haven't fallen for it and have defederated them anyway despite not being whitelisted by them.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 4 points 2 months ago

ran by the same team as ExplodingHeads.

EH was one guy who fucked off to NOSTR because he held free speech higher than the opinion of Lemmy.ml, Lemmygrad and the likes who dominated the Lemmyverse in the beginning. I'm pretty sure it's someone else.

[–] Kierunkowy74@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You will probably have to ask hilariouschaos admins themselves (well, on an alt)

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 2 months ago

That's what I'm doing, although anyone else who happens to know what's going on is free to answer as well. I don't feel like making an alt just to dodge around whatever they're doing.