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[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 25 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

It's insane to me how often I see takes like this, where it's clear that not only did they not play the game, they didn't even watch a second of gameplay.

If the game didn't HEAVILY penalize you for actually trying to exploit your pals, I'd agree, but mechanically a sweatshop will actually produce nothing at all in a short period of time. Bad working conditions lead to pals stopping work altogether until you let them rest, feed them, etc. to the point it's obvious their marketing and actual game design aren't in lockstep. You're REQUIRED to treat pals well to make substantial progress.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It's insane

"Everyone who criticizes the treats is mentally ill (and mental illness makes their opinions invalid), a bedtime story for treat defenders."

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 25 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

If you advertise your game as a slaveowner simulator, people are going to conclude it's a slaveowner simulator. That's how marketing works.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

The development team and the marketing team are not the same people. Extremely naïve to come to a complete conclusion with 0 exposure to gameplay. I don't respect the opinion because it isn't informed.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I don't respect the opinion because it isn't informed.

That's fine, I don't respect yours because you're a tool

[–] glingorfel@hexbear.net 16 points 10 hours ago

why would I play a game that was marketed in a way that makes me not like it at all? I don't need to be "informed" by being exposed to gameplay. it's not naive to reject something based on how it was sold to me lmao. it's not my fault that the marketing people are casting the game in such a bad light

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don't respect you being smuglord

It's not an "ill-informed" take you obtuse nerd! A good part of the advertising & marketing of the game, the material that is proliferated and shown to potential buyers, emphasizes casual cruelty and slavery.

It's not ill-informed to not want to play because of that! It's still an option in the game, no? You can work your cute little anime animals to death, you can butcher and eat them. The shock value was capitalized on by scumlord streamers for views much the same way as it was by the marketing - one has to wonder why these systems were included if not explicitly for the shock marketing value.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Devs themselves advertise their game like that. Reviews are full of chuds too. It's not even changed after all those months leading me to conclusion it's intended.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Nerd got banned and took it to dms lmao. If you're reading this, you can eat my ass, punk

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

If you report this that nerd will likely get sitebanned for dm haressment

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago

If you report this that nerd will likely get sitebanned for dm haressment

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

He also send message to me about good devs and evil marketing. Real g*mer moment. And the second dude is being ever funnier blaming it on... language barrier because it's 1830 and obviously Japanese devs don't know English.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

He also send message to me about good devs and evil marketing.

wtf-am-i-reading

Could you explain this one or summarize the message?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The game had a 6 Million+ USD equivalent budget, they hired marketing. Banning people randomly looks stupid.

With the context of discussion, it's clearly just devs good and innocent, marketing bad. As if that main game page on the biggest game store in history wasn't unchanged for months despite controversies. So the devs either are: a) hostages of their hired marketing people b) completely disinterested how their work is being advertised c) perfectly ok with it

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I haven't even looked much into Palworld, but what I did get from marketing blurbs was "what if Pokemon... but edgy and grimdark?"

Those Schrodinger's Asshole claims that the marketing isn't the game's intended way to play seem rather after the fact to me.

I heard similar bullshit about the "Postal" series and how a player didn't have to do any edgelord atrocity enjoying at all if they chose not to.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Toxic treat defending freeze-gamer fandom keeps collecting those Ls.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I was interested in the concept at first but it's the exact shit you mention that killed any enthusiasm I had.

"It's not optimal to be cruel" and "you can fight the poachers" c'mon now, they clearly know what they're implying and to assert otherwise is dishonest.

Maybe I'm "too sensitive" but them leaning into the vibe of cruelty and exploitation of deliberately cute, innocent sentient beings just made the whole thing feel gross to me. Personally I'd rather it not be an option at all but I'm clearly not the target demo, a not insignificant portion of which is irony poisoned chuds

[–] IWantToMakeProgress@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Check the trailers. I was put off at first but tried it after checking the trailer and read the reviews which most of them state that the exploit/slavery is not the focus. There is free straw-hat-pirates demo btw.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago

I am aware it's not the focus - I just find it gross that 1) it's an option in the first place and 2) that it was marketed on this and emphasized by certain streamers and LPers. I don't have interest in the game, I know what it contains and I don't want to play it even though slavery "isn't the focus". Just very much not my thing

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Ah yes, the storefront page. Definitely direct dev communication and not marketing.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 8 hours ago

Ah yes

Nothing good comes after that post opener. reddit-logo shit.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 hours ago

Game is selfpublished and they are not a huge disconnected bureocratic corpo, stop grasping at straws to defend this.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] IWantToMakeProgress@hexbear.net 2 points 10 hours ago

Japanese devs and English go well together.