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[–] Zip2 68 points 2 months ago (6 children)

As a non-American, can I just say: get your shit together and ban guns as you clearly can’t be trusted with them as a country.

Fully expecting to get downvoted by the “but it’s mah hobby” brigade. Get a new hobby, there’s peoples lives at stake.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

America has a gun problem but it also has a fear problem.

[–] ThePrimitive@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

And a self-esteem problem.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

And a big racism problem.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They need more regulation. It's easier to get a gun then a drivers license.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

What makes it easier to get a gun license if I get a drivers license afterwards?

[–] allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

The reality of it is we know straight up banning guns is the only way to truly solve this problem. The issue is we like to pretend it is some super complex issue with all this nuance that can only be approached by the best and brightest, but the right people to put that policy together just haven't come along yet. We tell ourselves that because the truth is we are totally okay with a certain amount of faceless death as long as we can have our toys and we don't have to clean up the mess.

[–] BobTheDestroyer@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We've been arguing about this in the US for my whole life, and I'm not young. At this point it should be obvious neither of the two faces of our government has any interest in doing anything more about guns than using the topic as a wedge to divide us and as a source of campaign funding. So you want to ban guns. Is that the hill you want your children to die on? How about instead of insisting that's the only way, we enact a solution that keeps kids alive and that both the red and blue team can agree on, like, say, mandatory armed guards (a paid job, not volunteers) at school entrances. Is it in conflict with our ideal vision of a peaceful society? Maybe, but it works. Other countries have done it and it stopped school shootings entirely.

Edit: I know it's not the best solution, but we can't seem to get to the best solution. So would you rather insist a ban is the only way and continue fighting? Or would you rather find a middle path and keep children alive?

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think the two-party system you've got there has got you by the balls. No offence.

[–] BobTheDestroyer@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No offence taken. You're right. And one of the few things the two parties cooperate on is working to insure it never changes.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Our two party, first past the post system is fucking awful.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We dont like the two party system. Our democracy is broken. Dont need some smug outsider telling us what we already know. Thanks, though.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That would never happen because whichever party does it, they can kiss goodbye to victory forever.

[–] Zip2 1 points 2 months ago

Then all parties can do it.