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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And they’re quite likely to back him when it comes to Ukraine, his grand plan to Europeify French strategic autonomy, all that stuff.

Are they? I'm no expert on French politics, but I always thought Melenchon was a big deal on the left there, and he is anything but EU or Ukraine friendly.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Melenchon is definitely not in favour of Russia keeping Ukraine. If I were him I'd take the chance of left unification to silently give up all my previous positions on the Russsia/Ukraine thing. France overall is less hawkish than Macron when it comes to boots on the ground, when it comes to NATO -- Remember when Macron called NATO braindead? Melenchon doesn't like EU austerity politics and such stuff but he's not an Eurosceptic, he just wants a different Europe. His opposition to a European army was rooted in "an army against what", again, he should use the chance to make people forget what he said about Russia in the past, if he really wants to get out of NATO strengthening European security integration is the way to go. Though personally I think it's a good idea to have Europe overall in NATO after all someone has to keep somewhat of a leash on the US.

In any case foreign policy and security is presidential prerogative in France, Macron doesn't need the assembly to do anything there -- and the assembly doesn't need Macron to do other stuff. If either of the sides is smart they'll agree to disagree on a couple of things and not oppose each other too heavily, table any remaining issues until 2027 (next presidential elections).

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Melenchon is definitely not in favour of Russia keeping Ukraine.

Isn't he? Last I checked he opposed sending arms for Ukraine to defend itself, supported Russia's annexation of Crimea, and said NATO was to blame for the war.

[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What Mélenchon thinks is of little consequence. All the left parties have put together the baselines of a common program, and supporting Ukraine is a big part of it.

Mélenchon is too disliked by the rest of the left to be considered for PM if it comes to that anyway, and all other potentiel candidates are strongly in favour of helping Ukraine.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Well, that's good to hear, then!

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

He condemned the invasion but yes his policies on the issue are generally shit. He's also not terribly popular as a unifying figurehead and candidate for becoming prime minister, though.

Basically it's the same vulgar pacifism that you also see from some European lefties elsewhere, "we need to give diplomacy a chance". I would be absolutely in favour of that if Russia ever gave it a chance, and if those chucklefucks wouldn't completely ignore Ukraine's sovereignty and instead substitute some "It's the CIA, again" narrative.