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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 205 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I know these stories are always fake anyway but holy shit, buy a bike and chill out for a few years.

[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 62 points 8 months ago (10 children)

I personally know someone who totaled 4 cars before turning 18. He literally treated the gas as an on/off switch.

So people that bad at driving are out there.

Truth be told, drivers here in the US are TOTALLY untrained for the most part. My oldest is currently in driver's Ed and it is a joke, in regards to actually how to drive a car. I have spent a lot of time training him as I have a long history taking racing and advanced driving courses. I've held SCCA and FIA racing licenses and I have taken some courses that are usually reserved for police officers The only problem is I do not feel that I'm a very good teacher for him. But he has picked up some things, even if he isn't up for threshold or trail braking.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 48 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Most of the USA also seems to lack options for adults to take a class and be given professional instruction on how to drive, for some odd reason. If you're out of high school there are no classes for you.

I wonder if it's like that in most other countries as well?

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Learning to drive as part of high school is a super American thing that is really indicative of your attitudes towards driving and car ownership

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (22 children)

Not in Hungary. Getting a category B license, which covers automobiles and mopeds, starts with a long course in driving theory, basic maintenance, and traffic laws, capped by an exam. Then a one-day first-aid training and exam. The next step is driving practice with a certified instructor -- basic skills on a practice course, then real traffic, plus parking and reversing maneuvers -- 30 hours total, which must include one hour of highway and one hour of night driving, and has a minimum required distance travelled, ending with a one-hour exam with the instructor and an examiner employed by the state. Next you have to pass a medical exam (sight, hearing, balance), and THEN you can apply for a driving license.

All in all, it took me about six months and cost 150,000 HUF (~400 USD using today's conversion rate). I passed the driving exam on the second attempt -- the first failed because I didn't yield to an old beater with a busted indicator light.

Also, just for comparison, when I started driving, my insurance was around 170 USD a year and it's only gone down. $500 per month is fucking absurd.

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[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, people like this are why my (absolutely spotless record, not even a parking ticket) insurance is so high. They drive rates up for everyone around them, simply due to the fact that you can get hit by them through no fault of your own.

I dated a girl whose brother had four accidents on his record at the time. He was 17 years old, so just barely old enough to have his license, (in my area you can get your permit at 15, and license at 16). After his second totaled car, their parents told him he was buying his third car with his own money. For them, the first totaled car was a fluke; The second was a pattern. So he got a job at 16, bought a junker with his earnings, and totaled it six months later.

The worst part is that two of his accidents happened in the exact same circumstances. Slick roads from an ice storm. He takes one particular corner too fast, hits a patch of ice, and ends up totaled. He totaled two cars on the exact same icy corner, because he didn’t learn from the first accident.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)

New intern at work was talking about smashing 2 cars while speeding just weeks apart. Then starts talking about wanting to get a motorcycle. Kid isn't going to make it to 25.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Can you get him to sign up to be an organ donor? My state lets you do it online.

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[–] Aremel@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Wouldn't they have revoked your license by this point?

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 38 points 8 months ago

Not necessarily. Actual accidents don't always confer citations and many of those can be discharged for simply proving your insurance paid the other person. It's not illegal to be a klutz, it's just expensive.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 144 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is there any hope for me?

Yes, public transport.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Is this a European joke I'm too American to understand? /s

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 120 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The insurance agencies really need a way to recommend the government take someone’s license when they’re a public danger like this.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well they do give them a strong incentive to stop driving.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 67 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They only give them a strong incentive to stop driving legally.

[–] byroon@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Taking someone's licence also gives them a strong incentive to stop driving legally

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[–] TheDankHold@kbin.social 114 points 8 months ago

Keeping people like this off the road is one of the biggest reasons why every place needs robust public transportation systems.

[–] plantedworld@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago

Bro needs a bus pass

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 69 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So best case for someone like this: don't drive. Get other people to drive you, use public transportation, get a bike, etc. But this is probably America and that is 100% not possible everywhere. Or even most places.

There is another option: State-Owned High-Risk Auto Insurance. These are insurance plans owned by individual states. Because US states all require auto insurance to drive a car and because driving a car is goddamn necessary in a lot of America, this exists.

It's VERY expensive. Like when I was looking at getting good coverage for 2 newish cars I was staring down $500/6mo. Our state's high-risk was $2,000+. But it exists for people like in the post who are just too expensive for ordinary insurance companies to want to insure.

[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 8 months ago (3 children)

At this rate I bet it's cheaper for them to Uber everywhere.

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[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

Where on earth are you getting insurance for 2 cars for $500/6 months? I'm middle aged, drive a 10 year old car, and have a perfect driving record, and mine's about $100/month. I've priced the same level of coverage with other companies and that's pretty much what all of them offered.

Eta: I'm literally asking. I have no loyalty to my current company, if I can get it cheaper, I'm out.

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[–] nebula42@lemmy.today 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where can I find more humor like this?

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 52 points 8 months ago

Hopefully not on any road near you.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 50 points 8 months ago (12 children)

I legitimately don't get people who can't drive. It's actually ridiculously simple to not break the law or get in an accident. I've never had a ticket or been in an accident. Closest was I slid on ice and hopped a curb once, but there was no damage at all because, get this, I was driving slow enough for the bad weather conditions :0

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago (32 children)

It’s actually ridiculously simple to not break the law or get in an accident.

Driving a car is absurdly difficult, incredibly dangerous, takes only a second of distraction to kill yourself and others and in general is such a nightmare that it is contrary to what you say a miracle that people aren’t crashing into each other all the damn time.

Like, everybody I have gotten in a car with for the past 10 years invariably will get stressed out significantly by the unavoidable chaos of driving enough to visibly become emotional about it even during a short drive. Driving is miserable.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I legitimately don’t get people who can’t drive.

Setting aside folks with serious disabilities, folks with long term mental decline, folks with mechanical difficulties, folks with rambunctious kids in the back seats, folks in neighborhoods with high speed limits and generally unsafe driving conditions, folks who have to drive through inclement weather, folks who don't regularly maintain their car's brakes and tires, folks who drive cars that have poor visibility (big trucks, particularly), and folks who just never learned rules of the road before getting a rubber stamp from a DMV that does not give a shit...

It's difficult to understand why other people don't drive as well as I do.

One sec. Sorry. Banging this out on my phone while driving and I had a whoopsie-doodle. Let me clean this up and I'll finish my post.

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Yet every fucking "car forum" is just filled with people who believe that it is their God given right to do 100mph+ on every highway, and that if you slow them down they are then justified to aggressively weave in and out of traffic.

Practice just going the speed limit. It is liberating.

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[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 49 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I actually believe this is a real story

[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I believe it. A childhood friend of mine had totaled like 7 (very cheap) cars by the time he turned 25.

After a particularly brutal crash, he was diagnosed with epilepsy after having an absence seizure in the presence of an ER nurse.

Hasn't wrecked since.

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[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (5 children)

My suggestion would be to:

  • Move to a place where not driving is a viable way of getting about. If you already live there, great!
  • Get a lifetime transit pass and consider getting a bicycle
  • Ditch your car and never look back
[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

From the amount of accidents they have had. Maybe start with walking and see how that goes first before getting anything with wheels.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 39 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Maybe you should learn how to fucking drive?

[–] don@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Pffft, that’s what the insurance is for, so they don’t have to learn.

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[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 39 points 8 months ago

Never thought I'd take the side of an insurance company.

[–] Vej@lemm.ee 35 points 8 months ago (11 children)

I got quoted $840 a month for insurance. Clean accident history. Insurance is bullshit levels of expensive.

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[–] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 35 points 8 months ago

The best insurance company for this person is take the bus.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Have you tried reducing your alcohol consumption?

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

As your attorney I advise you to buy a bus pass.

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

How tf do you even get a water bottle under the brake pedal?

[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I imagine they're one of those people who just have piles of trash in their car sliding around the floor and probably dashboard too.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It can be done. I drove Uber part time and a group of girls in the back decided why not drunk water bottle fight. One rolled under as I was going downhill. That is up there with one of the most terrifying moments of my life.

I used the emergency brake and stomped the foot brake as hard as i could multiple times until it was crushed then fished it out.

I no longer drive Uber part time.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 8 months ago

Sounds like someone should have their license revoked.

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

This guy is the reason all of our rates go up.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

So, basically, he had one accident per year. And he is not smart enough to understand that the universe is trying to tell him "Don't drive a car, then!"

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure, keep driving like that, with some luck you kill a person. Fr walk, use bicycle or bus before that happens.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

this is markets working. this is why we want police to have to carry insurance.

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[–] MrJozzBoss@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

I don't think car insurance is your biggest problem

[–] UncleArthur@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

That's a funny definition of 'accident'.

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