Perhaps check out https://frame.work
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If I remember correctly the shipping was really high when shipping to the EU. Might be different now, I’ll take a look again.
That’s good to know, thank you!
I live in a country where Framework doesn't officially ship. I asked them if I could buy and pay for shipping out here in the sticks, as a special order.
Framework's answer was a hard no.
I kept telling them "What part of TAKE MY MONEY I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE COST OF SHIPPING don't you understand? I want to buy a laptop from you, I'm telling you to wave the warranty and I'll pay for shipping no matter how expensive, and you refuse???"
But they refused.
So fuck Framework, sadly.
As for Linus Sebastian investing in their company, that one I didn't know. That doesn't make me all warm and fuzzy because, I don't know why, Linus is one of the most phenomenally irritating Youtuber in Youtubeland. I can't stand listening to the man.
I know it's totally subjective, he's really pro in what he does and I have nothing against him, but it's visceral: I can't stand the sight of him. His investing in Framework makes me want a Framework laptop less - although I fully admit it's not rational at all.
Sounds like you don't know how international trade works. A company like Framework can't ship to countries they don't normally ship to not because of cost but because of taxes, embargoes, laws, tariffs, and more. It isn't just about cost, it is about complying with laws. The countries they ship to they already know the laws. Any new county has to go through a long and painful process of learning local laws to make sure you are in compliance.
I'm privileged as an American to get almost everything I want, I get that, but you can't blame a company for choosing to spend its legal resources where they are most impactful.
Bullshit. I asked them to take my payment and throw a laptop in the mail like some ordinary shmuck I would have bought a laptop privately from. I live in a Scandinavian country, not in Mumbo-Jumbo land. The parcel will arrive. I'll take care of import duties and everything: all they have to do is package the laptop, put a sticker with my address on it, drive to the post office and forget about it. I even offered to pay them extra for the aggravation. They refused.
It's not about the money, it's about the legal process
If you want one that badly buy a new unopened one on eBay
One could use https://mailboxde.com. I don't have personal experience with them, but they seem to insure packages up to 1000EUR.
I think I'll give this option a shot once I manage to offload a few existing computers...
edit Well, perhaps not. Mailboxde says that they support shipping only inside EU.
I live in a country where Framework doesn’t officially ship.
Same situation here. I've been wondering what's so difficult about it.
I think they are great. Yes, they are a little expensive, but I am really happy with mine, and I've heard only good things about the Stellaris from a friend who owns one.
Have you compared them to Framework? That's what I would probably go for 8f I'd need to buy a laptop
I haven't looked at them recently, definitely need to give them another look.
I like the company and their commitment, but I would still not recommend them (I have two Tuxedo laptops myself and see others from my colleagues): all I saw were loud. Most cannot run completely without fan active, none were able to keep the fan quiet if you put even a little bit load on it. If you put REAL load on it you go deaf.
I would really like them to be perfect, but all I've seen disappointed me, unfortunately. And I am not sure I would take that gamble again when I replace my current one.
I've got a Pulse 15 for a few years now and I'm very happy with it. The keyboard is not the best, but I can live with that.
The Pulse is based on some Clevo machine, you might want to look at what the Stellaris is based on to find more reviews.
I bought a Polaris 15 last year and have no problems with it. The combination of the iGPU from AMD and the dGPU works out of the box and the I/O is fast enough for me.
Btw. I use arch on it as daily driver.
I have an older one and I love it. Never has given me issues, is fast, with lots of RAM, and it was cheap back them. Probably now it's more expensive, but it's difficult to find AMD laptops and they are the only linux laptop vendors with AMD (that I found).
Definitely would recommend over shit like Dell or other linux laptop vendors that only have NVIDIA.
Looks good to me. Great specs and the price seems fine for what you're getting too. If there's no common issues people are having, I don't think there's anything wrong with this Laptop.
I have one, the fan is active a bit too often and my battery became slightly bloated after 2 years of ownership. I did have it plugged in and didn't use the plugged in battery mode, because I didn't know about it, so maybe that was the issue. They did send me a new battery free of charge and I replaced it, so that was a good customer support experience. I general, I would recommend them.
Keep in mind TheLinuxExperiment is sponsored by Tuxedo, so don't take his opinion too seriously.
You can never know and it’s better to be careful, but he’s really careful with his sponsors from what I know.
He talks a lot about his sponsor selection in his Patreoncast and he seems picky about it. But again, it could just be marketing lies.
Still, I’d want to be able to trust his choices😅
That’s why I thought I’d ask here as well.
My father has one since 6 months, nothing bad to say. The built quality was good, specs for the price also decent, especially for a small seller.
I bought InfinityBook Pro 14.
This is perfect laptop for me, besides one thing that my unit has something bad with touchpad, randomly dropping percision which is super annoying as it mess with my muscle memory a couple of times a day.
I have send it to Tuxedo for touchpad replacement, then motherboard replacement... still the same issue, no idea what is happening. Maybe something with connectors, maybe they haven't actually replaced anything.
Other than the touchpad on my unit, it would be perfect in terms of practical aspects.
it looks pretty thick (2.6cm)
My last few laptops have been Tuxedo. Can heartily recommend. The tux key instead of the windows logo is a very nice touch. The first ones were 13", and their tiny fans could be rather loud during normal operation, but now I have a 15" and it's a dream.
Buy a thinkpad. You can customize them on Lenovos website and save money by removing the operating system etc.
They used to be good. Are they still worth it?
I love my T16 gen1. The P16 is more upgradable but also much more expensive. But basically yeah, you just have to pick the right model and specs.
what's replaceable on them?
Most parts are replaceable, but I think at most only RAM and SSD are upgradable on the newer models. It's truly disgusting that that's become a feature and not the bare minimum.
On the T16 I have one soldered RAM slot and one replaceable. Of course the SSD can be upgraded too.
The P16 (not the P16s which is just a T16) has four upgradable RAM slots and two slots for SSD.
So that's not crazy amounts of upgradability but it's something.
I actually got a Legion Pro 5 instead because it's a lot cheaper but still has 2 upgradable RAM slots and two SSD slots. My only complaint is that the keyboard is less stable than on a thinkpad and it looks like a gaming laptop.
Someday I'll get a P16 though... or else one of those Eurocom laptops, if only they had 16:10 screens and nice keyboards.
They're still some of the best machines out there. Every other machine has gotten shittier at an even more rapid pace.
They are okay, not nearly as robust as before.
That's what I did.
On their site you can order a fully customized machine and they'll even install Linux for you.
I ordered a full AMD laptop with a lot more RAM by saving the Windows tax.
They are solid machines. I just got a Thinkpad P1 Gen 6 from work (1,8kg with a friggin 880 gram 230 Watt power supply that I will not have to carry around, fortunately) and it is great.
I'm currently sitting with an Aura 15 Gen 2, and I'm definitely happy with it.
I do wish they'd get their firmware onto LVFS, but that's about my main complaint.
Thinkpad gang
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