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[โ€“] snek@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Usually, in our narrow and sad description of what an employee wants, it's not money. Clearly it's more related to the lack of ping-pong tables and extra responsibilities." ๐Ÿคก

These people have absolutely forgotten what it means to be an employee.

[โ€“] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Born rich they were never an employee

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[โ€“] zarmanto@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Of course, nobody with two brain cells to rub together who reads that answer is sitting there thinking to themselves, "Huh... I guess I've had it wrong all this time, focusing so much on money." Rather, they're instinctively blurting out, "Yeah right -- I call bull!"

But I'll give them partial credit; frequently it's about money. Sometimes, it's just about a work environment that used to be great going to crap. And sometimes, it's about the employee coming to an epiphany, and realizing that their work environment was actually crap all along.

That said, it may be true that not every job that I've ditched was entirely because of money... but it should go without saying that it's always a factor in where I went for the next job. Also, it's never the only factor -- but it's certainly one of the more significant ones.

[โ€“] RagingHungryPanda@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

share this with workreform. they'll love it. I would link but forgot how

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[โ€“] Nevoic@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually convinced my boss to get us a ping pong table, all I had to do was forego my pay for a year!

Totally worth, since I'm not working for the money, I'm working for the culture (our culture is now a ping pong table). It's so awesome that I can use it during my state-mandated breaks ๐Ÿ™‚

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[โ€“] SeatBeeSate@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I can't afford groceries for the 3rd time this month, but did you hear they're putting a ping pong table in the lounge!?

[โ€“] 011010101010010@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has to be satire

...right?

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[โ€“] Scheme@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

46 HR Employees downvoted this post.

[โ€“] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Most people quit because of bad bosses. I know I have...

[โ€“] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Wild. They both "might" help. They both cost the company money. They should both be correct.

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[โ€“] Snapz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Chants for your next strike action:

  • "Our CEO'S a DING DONG, WE JUST WANT THE PING PONG!!!"
  • "Hey hey! ho ho! Give us balls and paddles or we're going to go! Hey hey! Ho ho!"
  • "The workers without ping pong, will never work the day long!"
  • "The people with no paddles, will never be your chattel!"
  • "backhands, forehands, we don't need your labels, the only thing we need are fucking ping pong tables!"
[โ€“] dotslashme@infosec.pub 16 points 1 year ago

I doubt most people leave because of a lack of ping-pong table.

[โ€“] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This is the reason why but never the reason I give. If I make employers think at any time that I focus too much on the money, they will see me as a troublemaker. Instead, I come up with some bullshit excuse such as medical reasons and the smart employers will work it out on their own.

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[โ€“] Mrkawfee 14 points 1 year ago

Capitalism stops when it comes to salary. Then it's all about culture and warm fuzzy feelings. Those are the only incentives an employee needs.

[โ€“] Imgonnatrythis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Damn. Now I want a ping pong table.

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[โ€“] realcaseyrollins@kbin.projectsegfau.lt 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a capitalist I don't understand why it wouldn't be about the money

[โ€“] Steve@compuverse.uk 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience, they're thinking 20-30 cents per hour. And yah, that's never enough to change someone's mind. 20-30% that could make a difference, but it's way too much for them to ever concider.

[โ€“] Signtist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They'll consider it if they know someone else is willing to pay it. I got headhunted a couple years ago by a place willing to pay me 50% more than I made to work remotely doing generally the same thing I was already doing in-office. There were more responsibilities, though, so I wanted to stick with my current job if I could get them to match the offer. I took it to my boss, and he agreed to match the pay, and even talked the CEO into letting me work remotely when they otherwise have a pretty strong push toward in-office work.

Now I get paid more than my own supervisor while working a pretty cushy job in my pajamas.

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[โ€“] Delphia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Was "A ping pong table and enough free time in my schedule to actually use it for half an hour on a quiet day without the area manager coming in and demanding that we get back to work" too long?

Ill stay at an average paying job with a great culture, over a shitty culture and more money. But only to a point.

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Oh yeah, fun fact, in my former and current job every year we get invited to a town halls with some executive and every year we hear the complaints that we can't keep employees.

Every year I ask the same question, "We keep hearing that we have a attrition problem so why do we keep chasing the industry standard for pay and benefits, why can't we adjust our pay scale and promotion process to actual reward performance to actually keep our high performers?"

Every year, is a non-answer, nothing changes, we lose good people and only keep our industry standard people.

Though it was funny that since I'm on multiple projects/teams I did get the same speil multiple times from the same person and the third time in two years I got called I didn't even have to ask before I got the boiler plate.

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