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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Someone should set a new "shitamericanssay"

[–] WhiteBlackGoose@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ik it exists on reddit, but it would be nice to not make it around Americans.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

yeah, actually... !stupidonsocialmedia ?

[–] WhiteBlackGoose@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something around people, who think that what they're used to is default everywhere

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

"notthedefault" ?

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[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And a new USDefaultism while we're at it.

[–] Peeko@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Having the freezing point of water be at 0 instead of 32 just makes infinitely more sense.

[–] _ak@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Celsius is also kinda arbitrary, but at least it sets its 0 and 100 to very fundamental, observable temperatures, namely the points where the state of matter of water changes. There are more constraints to it of course, in particular atmospheric pressure, and the modern definition of Celsius is actually purely based on Kelvin (which in turn uses the Boltzmann constant), but as long as you're not high up in the Andes, everybody can observe a pretty good approximation of it.

Its prevalence is also the outcome of a long process of many different scales. In 19th century Europe, before Celsius completely took over, Réaumur was also very popular. It set 0° at the freezing point of water and the boiling point at 80° under normal atmospheric conditions. Thinking about it, it's quite wonky to do that, but at least it's easy to convert to and from Celsius. On the other hand, the similarity in temperatures makes it slightly harder for plausibility checks.

I ran into this when researching the history of some stuff and the specific scale was not always included, but the temperatures in the particular context both made sense as Celsius and Réaumur. That's when you then have start digging through a whole early 19th century 500 page book printed in a German Gothic font just to see whether the specific temperature scale is mentioned anywhere.

[–] Onionizer@geddit.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only if you're measuring water temps. In general it makes more sense to put the zero of your scale at absolute zero

[–] desttinghim@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Water temperature is super important though, since most life on earth requires water in a liquid state to continue to function.

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[–] CisopSixpence@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in the United States and although I grew up here using Fahrenheit, I switched to Celsius almost 10 years ago. Part of my reason for switching was the rest of the world was using Celsius and every time they would mention the temperature, I had no clue if that was very hot, or just right and kept having to convert, so since there were not that many countries that used Fahrenheit, I switched. I still know what the comfortable range is in Fahrenheit, but now I also know in Celsius as I use it every day. Also, I no longer appear to be an old curmudgeon that is resistant to using a system the rest of the world already uses.

[–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I did exactly this but with 24 hour clock lol

[–] roulettebreaker@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had once heard described that fahrenheit's best feature is that you can go "oh, 1-100, 'sheesh, that's really cold!' to 'hoof, that's pretty hot!'" and yeah, while I was in the US where most temperatures (RIP Florida) change all the time, that sure was convenient.

However, living in a country that always stays in the 80-100 range, the 'oh fuck, the water's freezing' to 'oh fuck, the heat death of the sun is upon us' range is a MUCH more useful scale to knowing if we've been struck by some sort of apocalyptic event today

[–] fennec@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mod@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

!ShitAmericansSay

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

F is kinda nice for weather as a scale of 1 to 100 of really cold feeling to really hot feeling. But for anything scientific or calibration related, C is great

[–] kat@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Disagree. Celsius is super helpful for determining if it's gonna snow or not, a key weather thing where I live. Humid and cold and below 0? Snow. Humid and cold and above 0? Rain or freezing rain.

Also helps with plants. Below 0? Frost.

I'd argue you can't get more intuitive than 0 is cold, below 0 is very cold. Celsius also plays nice with round numbers, every 5 or 10 degrees is a change in feeling. 0 is cold, 5 out is cooler, 10 out is cool, 15 is moderate, 20 is comfortable, 25 is room and warm, 30 is hot, 35+ is very hot. Every ten degrees we're doing big changes. 0 is frozen, 10 is cool, 20 is comfortable, 30 is hot. 32 being frozen doesn't feel as intuitive.

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