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[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

noooooooo, that's islamophobia

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Threats of violence should be met with actual violence, by the state.

That violence would likely take the form of imprisonment.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

And then violence should be met with ultraviolence.

I don't believe in the escalation game and the state having a monopoly on violence hasn't worked out well.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 8 months ago

locking people in cages is wrong

[–] BurnedDonut@ani.social 8 points 8 months ago

Here it comes at last. Britain's policy about letting Islamic extremist leaders get educated, followers brainwashed and fester in their lands coming to bite the hand that feeds it. Good luck.

For anyone asking why I'm saying this if you bother to check about the Islamic extremist movements (who are supporting ISIS, Islamic Brotherhood and the type) and their leadership you'll find at least one who comes from England or English universities who studied Islam there. Other than the Egyptian cesspool of Al-Azhar University, Britain is the biggest provider of Islamic extremist leaders.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago

Before I expanded the post to see the tagline, I was like "Wow, I didn't know those Anglicans were so zealous." ^^;;

[–] Zourage@reddthat.com 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Anyone remember the Danish artist who were killed for drawing Muhammad? Islam is not a religion of peace. There needs to be reform in Islam and policing from Islamic leaders if we expect any progress from the religion into the modern age.

If you look into Christianity, westboro baptist church is viewed as absolute loons by most Christians. The Pope is generally spreading messages of peace and folding in new science and cultural changes to make the religion work.

Islam should be criticized and it shouldn't be considered taboo to do so. Of course don't be a fuckin racist needs to be said to make it clear since Islamphobia is the knee jerk reaction. We can have nuanced takes ya?

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

So are you arguing that groups like ISIS aren't seen as absolute loons by the majority of Muslims? Maybe you should be asking yourself why you homogenized the Muslims and not the Christians, despite both having plenty of violent radicals.

[–] Zourage@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

I would say ISIS is viewed as extreme by a majority of Muslims. When Al Qaeda doesn't want anything to do with them they are definitely more fringe. But then again I would say Al Qaeda is also extreme, just not as much when compared to ISIS. You might have some extremist Christians but it's much more tempered.

I do take time for introspective thoughts on this subject and I came to the conclusion that it's considered taboo to say anything negative on Muslims when talking on the subject of religion. I have plenty of criticism on Christianity as a whole but that path doesn't interest me due to how common it is to find agreement on the subject.

My opinion/thoughts. When comparing only Christian and Muslim religion, Muslim is more extreme and less criticized

[–] i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

isis were seen in a negitive way not because they were not good muslims but because they were rebels

everything they did was justified according to islam

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Quite an interesting series tbh. I'd love to hear a convo between this guy and an imam lol. I stand corrected.

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[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)