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[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn if only he had put an ounce of effort in giving a proper finish to the biggest show fucking ever maybe people would give a shit about it

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf, Martin didnt have anything to do with the ending of the show sucking.

Now, the fact that he's doing this instead of finishing the books, that sucks ass.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, my point still stands. had he given those dipshits at least a fucking sketch of how it should end, they wouldn't have killed what it looked to be a bigger cash cow than StarWars and HarryPotter together

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to interviews he did give them the broad strokes of how it should end, D+D are just so incompetent that he needed to give them a lot more for them to follow. Probably more than he's even conceptualized yet lol.

Its interesting though, the stuff in the early seasons that were completely new additions that werent in the source text were actually good. Literally my favorite scene (Robert and Cersei talking about their marriage) isnt in the books. As far as I know, that was a D+D invention. So its weird to me that the same guys who did that couldn't write without source material later on. Guess they can do detail work like that just fine but not broad arcs? idk.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to interviews he did give them the broad strokes of how it should end, D+D are just so incompetent that he needed to give them a lot more for them to follow.

They also literally had a grudge against Emilia Clarke over her renegotiating her contract so she wouldn't have to do nude scenes anymore back in the second season, which is when they started writing the end of her character's story as a revenge fantasy against her personally. So it wasn't even just incompetent writing, but them actively deciding early on to write a weird, misogynistic ending out of spite for an actress not wanting to be naked around them on the set.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

dafoe-horror I'm not suprised, I'm just horrified

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who was reading the series a few years before the show was even announced, I kinda love this as the ultimate troll move. At the end of the day a writer has no real obligation to finish their work. I still believe we'll get Winds of Winter, but Song of Spring just ain't gonna happen.

GRRM specifically does have an obligation. Like the whole "Writers aren't your bitches. They don't owe you anything" defense was cooked up for him, and he's the case where it doesn't apply. Because he has been outright promising this, and he does it routinely, and he uses the idea of finishing his work as a way to garner interest in other projects.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd like to ask Mr. Martin to stop ruining fantasy for people who actually like the genre (or at the very least add more meaningful fucking melanin already)

Ever since GoT was likened to "Fantasy for people who would rather be watching the Sopranos" I've never been able to unsee it

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I guess that applies to the show, but honestly I strongly prefer the depth of character writing present in ASOIAF to any more classic fantasy stories that Ive engaged with. And I admit, the things i like about ASOIAF are not the fantasy elements. Its barely a fantasy story to me. Like yeah there's dragons and ice zombies but to me thats not the point its just set dressing.

Agreed about the melanin though. And I totally get how classic fantasy fans would be frustrated by the show at least.