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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 52 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You know what the problem is? it's that Youtube and more broadly speaking Google have completely squandered the benefit of the doubt.

All the shit about demonetizing channels for breaking ever shifting rules they haven't published...no. If Youtube treated content creators well, I might consider it, but they don't so I don't.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago

Content creators are a dime a dozen to them. And it's easy to see why. They're running an advertising platform, not a nursery for budding filmmakers. We create the value for youtube, they reap the profits.

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[–] Jeze3D@mstdn.games 44 points 9 months ago (34 children)

@balderdash9 YouTube Premium is actually a great value if you're like me and use YouTube Music as your main music app. It's only a few dollars more than Spotify and I get ad free YouTube included.

[–] BigMoe@lemmy.zip 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree. I have the YouTube Premium Family Plan.

For me, the price for Spotify and YouTube Premium famil was really close, and getting ad free YouTube and downloads in app for the same price sold it

Plus, YouTube Music lets you add versions of songs on YouTube that aren’t official (at least it did).

So, yeah, the way they push insane ads is terrible, but I like the product

[–] HeyMrDeadMan@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Your comment just reminded me that I've been paying for the family plan to include my father. The same guy that just kicked me out of the house I'd been paying him rent for.

Screw that guy. Enjoy your unskippable ads pops!

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

YouTube Music replacing Play Music is the main reason why Google can go fuck itself with YouTube Premium

[–] FrostKing@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why is that a bad thing? Genuine question, not rhetorical.

That just means that you get more with your subscription (YouTube features as well) doesn't it?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Because Play Music was a vastly superior product and they killed it to push people to pay for YouTube Premium.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah I've been using the subscription since it was rolled into Google Music (RIP). Also use the family plan which helps with the value prop as well.

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[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 36 points 9 months ago (4 children)

"everyone"? Lmao

I know tonnes of people who pay for premium

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 months ago

I pay for the family plan. My parents and brother and such use it like mad.

Definitely worth it to me considering how many devices it runs on. Also, I can download gigs of videos and watch them on commutes or on a flight.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also if you have Spotify you can just cancel that and use YouTube music instead.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

YouTube: okay that's cool. How about now? Wanna try YouTube premium?

You: NO

YouTube: okay that's cool. How about now?

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 7 points 9 months ago (6 children)

No idea what you‘re talking about. Ad block takes care of that. Even works on apple. Havent seen an ad in years.

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[–] FrostKing@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I know this won't be the most popular opinion, but honestly if they hadn't raised the price and I had the money, I probably would have YouTube premium. This is only because YouTube happens to be my main source of video entertainment, informational content, etc. and I also use YouTube music for all my music (though I highly recommend the app InnerTune to anyone that wants to be able to turn their phone off while listening to music etc.) Now that the price is so much higher, it's not even close to worth it, but if it was... I don't know, 5 bucks a month? Sure, I'll pay it. Ofc if much rather pay like 50 bucks for a lifetime subscription, but god knows they're never doing that.

[–] other_cat@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I had it and cancelled after they raised the price. You're google, you don't need more of my money.

[–] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It's about $5 a month if you have a family plan with every slot filled. Works out GREAT if you have that many people willing to pay in

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[–] noobnarski@feddit.de 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I already had adblock before the whole stupid adblock block. I support the creators I watch, can listen to videos with the screen off, and I also use YT Music, so its a good deal for me.

I can however understand anyone who doesnt want to pay for YT Premium and doesnt want to be blasted by scam ads. Ads shouldnt be this annoying.

[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just want to mention that if you're affected by the anti-adblock, use µBlock Origin. It's usually updated about as fast as the anti-adblock is.

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[–] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I pay for premium because I don't have a real PC. Heresy, I know. When I watch YouTube on my PS5 app I can't use an adblocker. There's solutions, sure, but I've gotten rid of almost every other sub service BUT YouTube prem at this point.

I guess I'm saying all of this because I feel guilty about paying for YouTube fucking premium lmao

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago

Don't feel guilty. If it works for you, that's all that matters. I've been a Premium customer for a few years now just because I think the provided services and lack of ads are worth it. Nothing wrong with paying for services you enjoy.

[–] revdrnegative@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ehh, I have it too and I don't mind paying. But, I'm still paying $7.99 a month since I was an early adopter of Google music, R.I.P....

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 months ago

To me it is the opposite.

I will never use a network device to browse the internet if it doesn't have a proper adblocker.

Don't feel guilthy though

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 16 points 9 months ago

YouTube had me as a paying subscriber until they fucked it all up. Great job assholes.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Any reason you're not using Ublock?

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Ublock Origin

Ublock is a totall unrelated extension.

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] derpgon@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

Missing an option to "Delete account"

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Content creators get 55% of the value of YouTube Premium. That's one of the major reasons I got it. I only wish it could remove sponsored fragments (fuck these) from videos, but I use SponsorBlock for that.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would have been a begrudging subscriber if they hadn't removed the dislike count and forced ads on unmonetized creators and took all the money from those ads. But because they did that, I got a subscription to Nebula instead.

[–] Syntax@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Do you realise how ridiculously expensive it is for Google to store all these videos? To be honest I'm surprised how long they've survived, without charging.

You essentially get unlimited free video storage using YouTube, yes I suspect 90% of it is crap. But it's amazing that Google still offer that. Running YouTube must be significantly more expensive than any other similar services like Netflix, YouTube, Instagram etc.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Well, guess what. Poor Google knew and should've thought about that before buying YouTube. Nobody forced them to.

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[–] SolNine@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Best deal is YT premium family, I have 5 or 6 people on it with no commercials on YT and YT music which is great for our use cases as well. Yes it's like $25 a month, but everyone that uses it loves it!

I consume a lot of YT, for "How it's made" and project shows there really isn't anything remotely comparable. No ads and FF through sponsored content is awesome.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Best deal is running an invidious server.

Literally entire youtube, free without ads, no account to do tracking, easy download button and best of all straightforward home page that can list uploads from subscriptions.

Honestly if this suits your family keep it. But youtube exploiting its creators for admoney cannot be the best deal.

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[–] SuperSynthia@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If they successfully stop Adblocking I’m going all in on Odyssee and Peertube. I’ve been slowly migrating already anyway

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are companies like Google and Conde Nast trying to criminalize ad blocking and apps like NewPipe yet?

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Revanced and smarttube

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Fuck corporate internet, give me 2004 YouTube back

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

2004 Youtube? You mean embedded Quicktime 7 that loads at dial up speeds?

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Tons of people have premium because they just go along with whatever pointless consumerism they are told to.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Ublock origin to skip ads that pay creators 0.000001 cents per view, spotify for $9.99 a month for all of the music/podcasts you can listen to on the go, and donate to patreon for your favorite creators. If you have 5 creators you truly love and want to support, $1 a month is generally the entry level patreon tier. And it's more money for your creator than they would have earned if you watched their videos hundreds of times.

That's $15 per month to get everything that youtube premium offers for $25 a month, plus you don't make Google richer in the process.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I'm not going to pay for Spotify either. Music should be a federated platform where you can purchase music directly from the artist and not pay massive corporations like Spotify, Google, or Apple for the luxury of doing nothing.

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