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Not at all a courtroom episode. Also, hurry up and read this. We rented this thread for a half-day and we're running out of time.
The SNW courtroom episode made me cry so hard, I loved it.
And then they followed it up in the LD crossover episode, of all things!
Has she never been to Kansas?
They'd get old fast probably.
But Astra per Aspera is a banger
To be honest I'm not impressed by CGI episodes and I find courtroom episodes mostly very boring.
First contact episodes featuring for us weird societies are the episodes for me!!
Honest question: Would a sci-fi show with the same premise of NCIS or JAG actually work? Do these courtroom Trek episodes work because we have many more episodes with other things going on?
Lary Niven was written some good scifi detective stories but the difficulty is that the mystery has to be solvable for it to be a good detective piece and it has to be leaning on things that don't exist in our world for it to be scifi. To make a mystery solvable and not feel like the answer is pulled out of nowhere the "rules" of the scifi part have to be clear and firm and we'll established. Unfortunately this is very difficult to pull off; Lary Niven is a top of the line scifi author but even he only managed to make about half of his scifi detective stories really work. It would be a moments undertaking to squeeze enough creative juice out for even a handful of scifi mysteries in a series I think. It would be fucking awesome though.
I see what you mean.
Possibly the worst part of a bad detective story is relying on information not knowable to the reader until the big reveal at the end. I, for one, love stories that are puzzle-boxes that are solvable by the reader (in a way). Remove all familiarity to the story's setting, as you do in sci-fi, and you now have to thread world-building alongside the mystery while not giving the whole plot away. And therein lies the temptation to toss out the puzzle-box premise and just drag the reader passively along for a ride; it sounds really hard to do. I'd give full credit to Mr. Niven: a 50% success rate sounds impressive, all things considered.
I'm glad to see that my point was so well understood! You and I are on the exact same page. I think Lary Niven did very well all things considered and I hope that the next generation of great writers will do even better.
Yes, though the fact that Trek is already a very well-established world with very well-defined rules probably makes that at least a little bit easier.
I've thought more than a few episodes of Babylon 5 were basically "JAG in space," so yeah. It could work.
ad astra per aspera!
Star Trek fans when they get a star wars crossover v when they get a phoenix wright crossover
I'll rock the boat, and say that I equally love the scifi of the spaceships, and seeing them fly around and pewpew also gets me going.
Seeing the Defiant in combat was always one of my favorite parts of DS9.
Itβs not exactly a happy moment but watching all the hundreds of Starfleet ships warp in at the end of Prodigy was awesome
Gotta have both, makes the courtroom eps all the better! Something something frank lloyd wright compression/release equivalent something something
I love any bottle episode. They tend to be more character driven and give a lot more room for standout performances.
I love both
I like the space battles... That's why Voyager is one of my favorite series. It has the best action. π₯Ή