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[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 61 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"IDF reveals" is rapidly losing credibility.

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[–] athos77@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Any actual proof of this, or is this just yet another bogus, baseless claim?

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 months ago

i mean it's Jerusalem post, so

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, this is their "discredit the media" phase of fascism, I see.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago

They started that back in 2021 when they bombed a Gaza highrise that housed multiple journalist offices.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 19 points 7 months ago (5 children)

How many IDF do genocide by day, pro-Israel journalism by night?

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 16 points 7 months ago

per the IDF.

Ah, so more unsubstantiated bullshit. If they wanted to be believed, they shouldn't have lied the first, second, fifth, or twentieth time before.

[–] 520@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean like they 'revealed' (read: lied about) UNRWA having ties to Hamas?

[–] livus@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago

They lost me way back at the fake "Palestinian" nurse with the Israeli accent who was complaining about trying to fix a kid's fracture without painkillers at Al Shifa because Hamas.

(Meanwhile the real medical staff at Al Shifa were complaining about having to amputate children's limbs without anaesthetic because IDF).

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 11 points 7 months ago (9 children)

I don't listen to Israel, the IDF or any news agency talking negatively about the people being genocided. I don't care about Hamas

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[–] wahming@monyet.cc 10 points 7 months ago

Ah, so THIS is why they've been preemptively slaughtering every journalist they can. It's just self defense!

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lol yeah he probably have a hammas base inside his shoe or something

[–] livus@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago
[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

had a side job as a commander in Hamas's anti-tank missile units until 2022

  1. Not even relevant to recent events.
  2. Anti-tank missiles are probably self defense, or at worst resistance.
  3. "evidence retrieved by the IDF revealed"
[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago

Not sure why anything JPost says about Gaza or the West Bank is believable in the slightest. We have so many, many examples of them blatantly lying about anything and everything in the past.

But, of course, the retraction is much less noticed as compared to the original fake claim.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago

it looks like they photoshopped weapons to replace cameras. A part time military commander?

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Do you have another source for this? I’m not familiar with jpost.

Edit:

MBFC says the following about jpost.

Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Country: Israel

MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MODERATE FREEDOM

Media Type: Magazine

Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic

MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 7 months ago

High Credibility but also Bibi's mouthpiece...

Analysis Until 1989, the Jerusalem Post’s political leaning was left-leaning as it supported the ruling Labor Party. After Conrad Black acquired the paper, its political position changed to right-leaning, when Black began hiring conservative journalists and editors. Eli Azur is the current owner of Jerusalem Post. According to Ynetnews, and a Haaretz article, “Benjamin Netanyahu, the Editor in Chief,” in 2017, Azur gave testimony regarding Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s pressure. Current Editor Yaakov Katz was the former senior policy advisor to Naftali Bennett, the former Prime Minister and head of the far-right political party, “New Right.”

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I have severe doubts that Al Jazeera would post this kind of story. And with this kind of evidence from IDF, I do think it means that there's reason to discredit Al Jazeera as well.

Welcome to war. The first casualty is truth as they always say.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

I didn’t mean AJ, I was looking for something like AP or Reuters.

Welcome to war. The first casualty is truth as they always say.

True, but that’s just another reason to remain skeptical and vigilant about checking the validity of claims.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Welcome to war. The first casualty is truth as they always say.

Especially when IDF is trying so hard to kill it

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[–] GundamWang@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_journalists_during_the_Israel–Hezbollah_conflict_(2023–present)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_during_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict

Over a hundred to date, and that's only this year. Every year we get stories of Israeli snipers targeting journalists etc.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Israel sided, but no more so than Middle East Eye is anti-isralei... which somehow gets hundreds of upvotes. Credible, factual, but biased.

People ask for evidence, evidence provided, evidence downvoted.

I would consider this a bit of info in a sea of propaganda campaigns and bot vote manipulation - don't take it as gospel, but an insight.

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[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have a less credible source, if that, uh, helps you. Scroll down for more claims with accompanying evidence, but as someone who doesn't know Arabic or what the leaders of Hamas look like, I honestly had no idea what I was looking at.

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[–] CrazyFrog97@discuss.online 3 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Al-Jazeera journalist by day, freedom fighter by night.

He's basically Superman.

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[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 3 points 7 months ago
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Al-Jazeera journalist Mohammed Wishah had a side job as a commander in Hamas's anti-tank missile units until 2022, evidence retrieved by the IDF revealed, the IDF's spokesperson for Arabic media, Avichay Adraee, announced on Sunday.

"During operations by our forces several weeks ago inside one of the Hamas camps in the northern Gaza Strip, a laptop belonging to someone named Muhammed Samir Muhammed Wishah, born in 1986 from Bureij, was seized where it is clear from the documents that Muhammed Wishah is a prominent commander in the anti-tank missile units in the military wing of Hamas."

At the end of 2022, Wishah transferred to work in the field of research and development in Hamas' aerial units, according to Adraee.

Adraee's attached photos showed Wishah engaged in operations within Hamas, including photos showing Wishah training Hamas members and firing anti-tank missiles.

"Who knows how many details we will reveal about the presence of other terrorists in journalistic uniforms in the near future?"

The IDF's English-language X account responded to the revelations, posting "Hey @AlJazeera, we thought your journalists were supposed to give unbiased reports on situations, not actively participate in creating them on the front lines as Hamas terrorists."


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