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It's good, I love Jody foster, Navarro is a great actress, qavvik is a great character. It still suffers from some pretty clumsy writing though. No one in the town or the police force generally seems to notice that 6 people died in a horrifying mass murder/accident. There's a lot of just rolling with it going on.
I am enjoying it though
I mean the police being dumbasses seem accurate lol. Though I imagine people would be livid if their families were gone.
Been hearing mixed opinions about it what's that about
Not seen it but my impression is some viewers are upset the new one seems to be hinting at supernatural stuff actually happening, rather than the "cosmic horror" of s1 being rust's broken self trying to make sense of depravity under late capitalism (ie hallucinatory, allegory)
Actually the indigenous women weren’t victims of systemic racism, it would Cthulhu 
Yah know it could be both
Honestly I think most of the stuff this season is hallucinatory too.
Same, I can see it taking a turn to how the mine has literally poisoned everyone and indigenous lore is fueling some of the hysteria 'forming' the hallucinations.
Here for it if that's the case, need more media about ecological impacts of capitalism
it stars a lot of women, many of whom are indigenous, and is really about the plight of the native women in the area.
so basically misogyny
Some viewers dont like the writing, other viewers dont like the fact that its about a female version of Rust and are using the fact that others don't like the writing to shit all over it. They will complain about "pointless" scenes and point to the flashback where Navarro meets the midwife who is busy delivering a baby. Or they will complain its "trying til had to be political" because its touching on real world issues (as opposed to the other seasons apparently). Others just don't like the writing - The dialogue is kinda stilted.
Others are caught up in the mood of hating on New Thing and are now looking for flaws everywhere. These people are dense as fuck and will point out things as plotholes, despite those things being explained.
I've been enjoying it. I could maybe make some minor criticisms. Honestly, i hesitate to say anything definitive until I've seen the whole thing, because seeing the full thing might reverse those.
The loudest critisms seem to be a lot of misogyny. Like every detevtive in noir and on True Detective in particular is an asshole, but because they're women now people are flipping out. Also this season has a different show runner (who is also a women) and thst seems to be a problem for some people, including the old show runner who still gets an executive producer credit and profits off it, but feels compeled to complain himself
I'm not that far in, but while I'm overall enjoying it, it feel a bit less tight than seasons 1 and 3. I'm seeing more clique tropes (dude with a mail order bride? Really? In 2024?), scenes that go on a bit too long, and it's wearing its influence on its sleeve, literally they have a DVD of The Thing on a shelf in one shot. Also it's too early to call it but I think it's, unintentionally or not, gonna have a similar twist to the video game Penumbra (don't look up for spoilers). Oh yeah The Terror too.
The supernatural stuff being more blatant isn't inherently bad but I feel like it could easily go in a really stupid direction fast. Plus it does kind of clash with the themes of the previous seasons.
i've been really enjoying it, and like the creepy tone and pacing. I shoudn't have been, but I was kind of surprised that it's getting a lot of hate. It's really leaning into the supernatural, which the other seasons hinted at or left ambiguous, so I can get being put off by that, I guess. But people are also trashing it because Jody Foster plays an asshole cop, or they have a problem with Navarro. All the cops in the show in every season are kind of jerks. I guess since the main cops in this season are female a lot of people can't self-insert themselves into the "bad-ass cop who takes no shit and fucks a lot" characters and don't enjoy it as much? A lot of the complaints seem wierd and nitpicky to me.
Jody foster is playing female McNulty and everybody loved McNulty.
I've never watched an episode of True Detective cause I assumed it was true crime shit. But we fot cosmic horror and Jody Foster being McNulty? Imma download this rn
The first season is lightning in a bottle, but the others are good too. They all involve crime against children FYI, lots of grim stuff
Yeah I've seen people complain about Navarro's introduction trying "too hard" to make her badass by making her "too good" at fighting, having her fuck a lot and give no fucks.
Meanwhile Rust in season 1 was an undercover biker with insane combat skills and he fucked a lot and took no fucks, but that was fine because it made sense for the character or was realistic or whatever lol
trying "too hard" to make her badass by making her "too good" at fighting
Kali Ries is a professional boxer, lol.
Yeah it's silly lol, especially because every season has had a "badass fighter" detective and no one batted an eye, but suddenly the actor is an actual badass fighter and it's an issue
I hope the last 2 episodes are about Hank traveling to Siberia to do a Taken style rescue of his fiancee
idk but pretty sure one of the characters is Rust's son or nephew. Last name Cohle cant be coincidence.
yeah it's made pretty clear by Rose that Travis is his dad
also can we talk about that m16a1 in episode 4?
It's totally iced over in one shot and totally clean in the next. they are definitely building to some lovecraftian shit.
i wish there was a good written resource compiling the connections between the seasons because there seems to be a throughline between season 1 & 4 but i dont wana rewatch hours of tv or a baseless "theories" youtube content mill. just tell me why the swirly doo is the same bro
Rusts dad is a ghost that leads rusts mom to a pile o' corpses.
The tuttles are now a megacorp financing icedrilling.
The weird spirally thingy is back everywhere.
It takes place in an Alaskan village in the period where rust says he was in Alaska.
I really like it too. The dialogue is kinda wack at times, and I'm struggling with wether it actually is bad dialogue or I'm just wearing nostalgia-glasses for season 1 (the Tinder/"I listen" convo was so bad it made me laugh).
The plot is fucking great tho, I love the supernatural elements coming in and one of the dead people has the same name as one of my ex's parents, which is very funny. Hadn't thought about them in years, but shot them a quick text and we laughed about it together.
I love the indigenous representation. I love the mystery. I love that the original showrunner is salty that someone else is doing the show and they're doing the thing people wanted him to do, but he never did (leaned into the cosmic horror stuff).
Do you have any theories?
I think
The scientists found some weird bacteria or chemical that causes hallucinations, and now the mining company has drilled into the place where that thing is, and it is seeping into the water causing mass hallucinations.
that's my guess. my partner is like "NOOO IT'S MAGIC STOP NOOO"
I have real beef with the people that take issue with the supernatural elements, when there's (as of yet) plausible explanations for all of it.
"How come rust cohles ghost dad showed them the way to the corpses?"
Gee I don't know, THATS THE FUCKING MYSTERY. Imagine watching a detective show and being mad that not everything is explained immediately.
Do you have to have seen season 2 or 3?
All the seasons are completely seperate. Which is good because season 2 is like unwatchably bad according to everyone lol
Just like the wire, season 2 was disliked because it was too different. It's a completely fine season. Does some Epstein shit before that was mainstream.
I really like season 2 of the wire. I also like season 2 of true detective. Coincidence?
nah reddit hates the new season more so they're now saying "wow s2 was actually good"
but season 2 was always good, and i'll die on that hill.
but season 2 was always good, and i'll die on that hill.
I will join you on that hill comrade
everyone was just mad it wasn't season 1, and it was never supposed to be!! afaik the creator said each season would be independent and be a different style, with season 2 being a greek tragedy! people really just want the same thing over and over and over.
I like season 2 because i really love noir and its just pure noir. Nothing could have lived up to season 1, and 2 was a big departure which i think is why it gets the level of hate it does.
Wasn’t the book written by Italian “Kill Yourself Now” Communistman?
season 1's philosophy content cribbed a lot from thomas ligotti but he didn't write a book called True Detective or anything
Wait, so True Detective was inspired by Ligotti but not written by him?
nic pizzolatto did the story for season 1 and took inspiration from ligotti's nonfiction work The Conspiracy Against The Human Race as well as Chambers' The King In Yellow, Lovecraft etc.
a lot of the shit rust says is mor eor less quoted from ligotti
Ligotti sounds based af
one of my top 3 authors. great, great short stories and corporate horror novellas
Thanks for putting me onto him.
cw self harm
he unironically thinks everyone on earth should kill themselves and that it is a failure of will that they have not done so, that the primary motivation for human existence is cowardice. he is not “based”. this ideology when taken to it’s logical extreme would demand that any moral person do all they could to cause nuclear Armageddon
basically New Schopenhauer, who had the same opinions but like better (Schopenhauer did not think everyone should kill themselves or wait for death afaik, just that the primary purpose of life is avoidance of suffering and therefore human birth should not happen)
Certainly he could have written good books but so did Lovecraft and we know how Lovecraft was.
I don’t like how much we abide by and tolerate actual suicidal ideation in our movement, especially with how many people are physically hurt by that kind of rhetoric. And before you quote Revolutionary Suicide at me, I am aligning myself closer with that than against it:
Revolutionary suicide does not mean that I and my comrades have a death wish; it means just the opposite. We have such a strong desire to live with hope and human dignity that existence without them is impossible. When reactionary forces crush us, we must move against these forces, even at the risk of death.
Some have tried to discover politics in his short novel My Work Is Not Yet Done which deals with corporate America and the horror of office jobs, but as Ligotti told one interviewer: “While My Work Is Not Yet Done uses the corporate system as a starting point, this is only so that the story can go on to depict the all-encompassing system of human existence-in fact, all organic existence-as something fundamentally and inescapably evil.” (Interview: Thomas Wagner)
This fits pretty fundamentally with my belief about all “philosophical pessimism”: it’s just Christians who refuse to call themselves Christians lamenting the death of God and the fact that reality does not meet their unrealistic expectations.
This is not what Ligotti says. In fact, in The Conspiracy Against the Human Race he has a whole section about why philosophical pessimists are not obliged to kill themselves, and that he thinks there's a very large difference between "everybody needs to kill themselves and everybody else to end humanity and therefore suffering right now" and "maybe we should stop having kids and let our species die so we don't bring anybody else into this world built solely for suffering." He even has a whole little thought experiment how the "last humans" could live in a kind of utopia with mass material abundance as humanity winds down.
The acting has been pretty solid so far. It's got a lot of elements in common with The Thing which is pretty fun.