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Finally, a good meme to call out this NPC response
Can we get one for this too?
I'm tired of seeing devs on Discords and Slack channels jerk themselves raw with it every time they get any kind of negative feedback whatsoever on a change they pushed.
This good?
This is beautiful
It really depends whether he got the devs of "Lutris, Heroic, Legendary, Bottles, etc." to agree to use the unified runtime before starting this project. As long as he gets most of the big players to join then it will actually become the only standard worth using.
Based on the currently Bottles dev's plans to create Bottles Next, my guess is no
Why would that effect whether or not they would use it?
I'm not sure how it's relevant. Was anyone else even trying to make a standard? They were mostly just all doing their own thing.
From the naming it's clear that GE wants this to be the new standard, but it's not really a new standard. This is porting Steam's launcher, which already exists, to non-Steam clients.
Yeah - that was my worry.
Unification of standards only works if everyone agrees to use it and only it (i.e. mobile phones and USB C), otherwise you're just adding another one to the pile.
This is a bigger issue for hardware than software. This is why we can use heroic, proton, lutris, or whatever. And most programmers who can offload a part of their code onto another project that is doing the job well will. That's exactly how Linux started.
Hopefully will not be the case. Depends on whether buy-in from Heroic, Bottles, and Lutris maintainers have been secured
Considering the fact that they're already relying on GE's version of wine, I don't see why they wouldn't move on to this when it's stable.
Isn’t one of the features of bottles etc that you can select different versions of wine on the fly per-app? This sounds like it’s meant to supersede that
Glorious
Eggroll
with extra lettuce please
This is great. Proton is getting a lot of testing just based on Steam's userbase and it is backed by Valve. We also have a lot of data on proton's performance and potential game-specific fixes in the form of protondb. Making sure that non-Steam launchers can use all that work and information is crucial to guaranteeing the long-term health of linux gaming. Otherwise it is easy to imagine a future where proton is doing great but the other launchers are keep running into problems and are eventually abandoned.
One thing that I am curious is how this handles the AppId. If this AppId is used to figure out which game-specific fixes are needed, then it will have to be known. Do we have a tool/database that figures out the AppId from the game you are launching outside of Steam?
no steam or steam binaries required
The best
That's great news. Praise be the glorious Eggroll!
He is truly doing the Lord's work!
I've been waiting a long time for this!
Needs a better name tho. How about Unilaunch?
United Launch Alliance
But can we run it on windows
With WSL it might be possible
Given Proton can actually be faster on some windows games, there might be a legitimate use case for this.
It would also be useful for developers to use for testing. Low friction access to a Linux runtime environment would make it a lot more reasonable for Devs to support Linux as well.
That's mostly down to DXVK, not Proton in general. You can't really translate Windows API calls from Windows to ... Windows. It wouldn't change anything. Running games with Vulkan might though, especially with Intel Arc for example.
Meanwhile PortProton which did similar thing long time ago :)
..so did Lutris, Bottles, ZentryWine and like 8 others. That's why we created yet a new program to unify them all!
(To be fair, I like the fact we have choices, and hope this project takes off, but yea..)
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