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[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Folks remember this is Russian military doctrine. This is exactly what they did in WWII.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 10 months ago

Only in conjunction with a suite of other factors. By itself, as we are seeing, it can only get you so far.

[–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Nothing new in the east.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Ukrainian internal affairs adviser Anton Gerashchenko posted the clip on X (formerly Twitter) of the unnamed Russian serviceman describing how he had been "sent to slaughter" in the war.

The video, which as of Saturday, had received more than 225,000 views, is the latest account from a member of Vladimir Putin's personnel who have complained about poor training, leadership and morale.

It comes as Russia suffers huge losses in the offensive it launched in October towards Avdiivka, in the Donetsk oblast, which has seen a spike in troop deaths, according to Ukrainian and Western estimates.

The YouTube channel says that it is showing "the real situation in Ukrainian captivity and calls on the families and friends of the Russian military to surrender."

The clip of the soldier, whose named is bleeped out and whose location is not given, shows him describing how he and his comrades were given automatic rifles and driven to a firing range.

Putin issued a decree on Thursday for foreign nationals who fight for Russia in Ukraine to get Russian citizenship for themselves and their families.


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[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ukrainian internal affairs adviser Anton Gerashchenko posted the clip on X (formerly Twitter) of the unnamed Russian serviceman describing how he had been "sent to slaughter" in the war.

Are we also listening to the videos posted by Russian soldiers on X of Ukrainian soldiers saying they're completely outmatched on every front? No?

Well then why do we care what a Ukrainian government official posts? Both sides are dumping propaganda into the void and we're just eating up whichever side we like more.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Every piece of information, even propaganda, is a valuable data point.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not if the mods take down propaganda from the other side, leaving the community entirely propagandized by one perspective.

[–] HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Like what happens on worldnews.ml

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago

They leave up VOA articles, and VOA is literally US propaganda. They also leave up Kyiv Post, CNN, and Ukrainian Pravda, as well as Times of Israel and Haaretz.

They're much more aggressive moderating against ad hominem attacks, though.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's next to impossible to have rational discussions about this war.

Most people on these forums are consumed by propaganda and don't even realize it.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

There's two rational positions on this: allow all propaganda, or block all propaganda. Selectively allowing propaganda is just exposing the mods' political opinions and pushing it on everyone else.

Fact is, nobody really knows what's going on. Fog of war is in play and everyone has an incentive to lie.