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[–] Puppy@kbin.social 107 points 1 year ago (8 children)

"Post-birth abortion" 💀💀

Bro that's called murder 😅 why do they try so much to associate abortion with murder? It never worked and never will. Nobody is as dumb as they are. It's like they are trying to convince you to become stupid and forget reason because Jesus.

What in the actual fuck is wrong with conservatives nowadays? This is why this ideology is dying. And the more it dies, the more radicalized they become

[–] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why isn't the interviewer calling out his bullshit to his face? This is how you get the lowest common denominator to believe this garbage.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because CNN got shifted towards the right for a while. I know there's been leadership change at CNN relatively recently, but I don't know if that leadership is making any changes on that front, or if any attempted changes are having an effect.

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[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the bullshit myth of "impartiality" that most journalists buy into.

They think they need to just "let the candidate speak for themselves" unless it's a left leaning candidate, and then they either;

A, Ignore the candidate completely,
B, Tear into the candidate on made up metrics like "electability" despite how popular the candidate actually is.

More has been written on this subject, but this is a good one.

[–] dessimbelackis@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

It’s cuz the people who own media companies love republican policies and candidates no matter how “left-leaning” they allow their outlets to present as. An actual left-wing news station would tear desantis apart but they don’t exist because of media concentration.

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because he's not a journalist, he's a content creator. He gets paid for views, not for accurate reporting

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[–] Kalkaline@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you listened to the whole video they talk about not providing life savings care to the child, which is not murder. There are a ton of babies who don't do well after birth and are not expected to survive long. This happens for a lot of different reasons. Withdraw of care, or moving to comfort care, is a well defined and common occurrence across the medical field. People die all the time and you can artificially preserve things like the heartbeat and breathing with machines, but you have to decide if that's what is best for the patient. It's not murder, it's not "post term abortion" either.

[–] Puppy@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just find the term incredibly stupid and hilarious 😅 Republicans always says the dumbest shit.

Think about it for a second;

"Post birth" means you are born. Right? Once you are born, you cant be aborted anymore... it changes the whole meaning. If you are born, breathe on your own and someone kills you, its murder. Not "post-birth abortion" lmao. Abortion is the end of a pregnancy. No pregnancy, no abortion.

Republicans can spin and twist this off as "abortion" as much as they want, they aren't doing a good job convincing the average Joe that abortion is wrong. Which is their goal... and everybody knows abortion is a relatively mild medicine procedure that does not involve killing anybody so why still using these stupid ass term?

[–] Kalkaline@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

It's a tactful way to get ignorant people to vote against their own interest. I don't think DeSantis is dumb, I think he's power hungry.

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[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Because it did work. It worked well enough that January 6th happened, and the 2016 election. It worked well enough that Florida consistently looks like Florida and votes like Florida, generation after generation.

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[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My only question is if he's stupid enough to actually believe it.

[–] NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt that he is. His supporters, on the other hand...

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[–] Polydextrous@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s just as dumb as believing in “partial birth” abortions which…I mean…come on. If only these people had the capacity to think about it for two seconds.

[–] Treefox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What in the world is a "partial birth" abortion?

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The idea is it’s a late-term abortion where the baby is partially born and then killed. These abortions have been officially illegal since 2003. In general, only a tiny percentage of abortions are performed later than 24 weeks, and it’s almost always because of something terrible. Here’s a good article about it: https://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/partial-birth-abortion-separating-fact-from-spin

[–] Treefox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They really think that happens? In late term abortions right now the fetus is terminated before any delivery/extraction occurs. Crazy what they believe happens and equally crazy they don't bother to do actual research on what really happens.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It was huge propaganda point in my church when I was being raised Catholic. They told us the babies are either vacuumed out in pieces or they're pulled out and then their head is crushed with forceps. This is the kind of disgusting BS they make up to justify forcing their beliefs on other people. They teach it to naive children like it's a fact.

And of course they never mentioned that late term abortions are only ever performed to save the mother's life. They intentionally make it sound as if doctors just like killing babies and the mother is a debaucherous asshole. Cruel fucking liars.

Imagine going through that as a mother who WANTS to have a baby and then being treated as a murderer. It's straight up evil.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Something republicans made up

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[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The republicans have been brainwashing their base to believe Democrats and Liberals are Satan's minions, just pure evil. They'll believe anything that fits that narrative. Remember the guy that shot up a pizza place because the right wing fronted a conspiracy theory that Hillary was running a pedophile ring in the basement.

[–] forgotten_xennial@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pedophile ring in the basement of the pizza place, which literally had no basement.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How stupid of a journalist/interviewer you have to be not to call out that bullshit and not relent until this fucker corrects his words on camera.

[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

That's the "New" CNN for ya trying to reach FOX News viewers.

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[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. These people know exactly what they're doing. Except Donnie Cheeto of course, who genuinely has no idea of what is true and what is false. That's why he comes across as so "authentic" to the morons.

[–] Drewsteau@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah this guy is a Yale/Harvard grad. He’s not stupid, but he knows what stupid people will believe and he knows how to say it convincingly

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Too bad no one aborted DeSantis.

[–] zib@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

He's post-birth, so I supposed there's still time.

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[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What kind of stupidity does it take to hear "post-birth abortion," and not immediately question it? We're doomed, because half of the voting population in this country can be convinced of literally anything if it's said by the right person, and it hurts the right people.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It takes generations of crippling education that removed critical thinking from a generation. Instead of thinking "post birth" abortion = actual murder and instead go "abortion" = murder "post birth abortion" double murder! It's like when you ask a Christian about sharia and they decry it yet when asked if Christianity should be involved in politics or shape politics and they go "of course!" Being wholely ignorant of the fact abrahamic law (Mosiac law) and sharia are most similar than dissimilar.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By their own logic, "post-birth abortion" should be seen as no worse than regular abortion because they claim regular abortion is murder. Not that I expect them to ever be logically consistent.

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[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Someone should remind Floridians they live in a post birth abortion state since they allow the death penalty.

[–] KrombopulosMikl@lemmynsfw.com 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My grandfather said abortion should be legal through 1st grade. And he wasn’t a liberal.

[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“I brought you in to this world and I can take you out. And make another one just like you.”

  • Dad, Trump voter.
[–] HotDogFingies@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Dude, my dad said almost exactly the same thing to me all the time growing up. He tried to make good on that statement on the regular. He also voted for fucking Trump.

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[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Does anyone want to let him know that he has about 1,500 "post-birth abortions" per year happening in his state?

[–] rthmchgs@lemmynsfw.com 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't post birth abortions happen in a lot of states, particularly at schools, but also grocery stores, homes, movie theaters, concerts?

[–] Bread@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, you forgot malls, the streets, restaurants, libraries, and other locations people might exist at.

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[–] theyresocool@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

There is no such thing as a liberal or conservative state. Dumbass doesn’t even know that fact.

Vote for a Florida politician and you get a bag of shit with some cocaine on it.

Go ahead and test the waters for a third time and watch your kids future vanish. What’s left of it anyway.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Capital Punishment is just a fancy word for extremely late-term post-birth abortions.

So red states do it all the time, Ronnie.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol he also said he's against the military providing abortions.

They’re actually paying people to go and get abortions with American tax dollars as part of the military.

This dude's going to make sure the military doesn't kill anyone, I guess.

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[–] ZombieTheZombieCat@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

"Post-birth abortion"

This shit is like an SNL parody of America

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

They sure do. It's call murder. And it's happening with guns. DeSanctimonious is anti-gun! Get 'em!!

[–] MissO@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

baseless claim

I wish they’d just out and out say “lies”.

Can we post-birth abort DeSantis?

[–] Deelala0516@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

He should have been post birth aborted. I guess it could still happen, huh?

[–] idunn@lemmy.fmhy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, it’s Republikkkan states and legislatures that perform post birth abortions through inaction on school mass shootings.

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[–] rusticus1773@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s all about imagery for Republicans, not honesty or reality. Waiting for the introduction of phrases like “mutilation abortion”, “satanic abortion”, and “puppy killing abortion” when talking about liberal states.

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[–] shotgun_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Can I get one? I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is just a clever man, framing an issue with a scary term used to terrify an ignorant voter base. Why is everyone so surprised as if this was some new thing?

DeSantis knows exactly what he’s doing here. He and his cronies are experts at manipulating the Cletuses.

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[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe "post-birth abortion" is the term we should be using to make the GOP finally address school shootings.

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