New Zealand Officially Recognizes Lobsters, Octopuses, Crabs as Sentient Beings : hackernews

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

New Zealander here. I've heard nothing of this and it's been a slow news week.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 9 months ago

Now that the bird of the century elections are over, I guess it's hard to get excited about anything else the rest of the year.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Also a New Zealander, looks like the "news" site is confusing New Zealand and the UK?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Welfare_(Sentience)_Act_2022

[–] Lionel@endlesstalk.org 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Doing this to any animal—regardless of sentience—is straight fucked up. Nothing says selfish like torturing an animal to death so it tastes better. Make it quick.

[–] graymess@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm vegetarian, so I'm not defending this at all, but as I understand it, boiling kind of is the best way to kill a lobster quickly. A friend of mine had a roommate who thought otherwise and tried to decapitate one for dinner. I don't know their biology well, but there's something about lobsters' brains spanning the length of their body, so it wouldn't die. Just horribly suffering and bleeding everywhere with a knife through its body. Tossing it in boiling water should near instantly kill it. All the water inside their shell steams immediately.

[–] THJr@ttrpg.network 3 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately your roommate seems to have been using improper technique, this video shows how to properly do it.

As far as I know this is considered much less painful than boiling.

[+] I_Has_A_Hat@startrek.website 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] C0unterfactual@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Consider the lobster

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I thought that was needed to avoid toxins or something.

[–] THJr@ttrpg.network 3 points 9 months ago

That's if you kill the lobsters hours before, generally nowadays it's considered more humane to kill it just before putting it into the pot.

[–] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Strange thumbnail. The actual title of the article says New Zealand too. Those wacky Pakistani journos!

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

BNN - a Fox News AI experiment /s

[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Not the Onion?

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

I mean, yeah. The bar for sentience is very low. Sapience is a lot higher of a bar.
People have shown that plants can be sentient after all (they can feel pain at least, IIRC). So it makes sense that almost any multicellular organism above a certain amount of cells would be sentient.

[–] Dio@lemy.lol -4 points 9 months ago

Okay. So, put them to sleep then boil them. I am not missing out on my water scorpion food.

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