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Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.

In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.

Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 133 points 11 months ago (37 children)

Young voters are being given really shitty choices.

[–] derphurr@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Doesn't matter, over half won't be voting. Even less than normal if GOP state legislatures do away with mail in ballots or automatic mailed request forms from COVID times.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The less people who vote the more elections Republicans win.

Make sure your friends go vote (unless they’re trumpeter assholes maybe, then don’t talk about it).

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[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (16 children)

I wonder when this magical time was where voting for the president had great choices. What many young voters fail to understand is that it’s not all about the president. Get enough Democrats into Congress, and they will be able to vote for progressive legislation, and if you send that to your far-from-ideal president’s desk, they’ll sign it.

It's certainly a much easier task than having an awesome progressive president who begs a near 50-50 Congress to pass good bills, and it just doesn’t happen.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 106 points 11 months ago (85 children)

Sure, Biden kinda sucks, but THE ALTERNATIVE IS ACTUAL FASCISM.

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[–] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 90 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Young voters overwhelmingly prefer the guy who's not actively trying to destroy the future, how shocking!

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Which is why republicans are trying so hard to push the idea of not being able to vote until you're much older.

cause they want to cut off the youth vote, because they'd rather disenfranchise tens of millions and get rid of democracy than risk having to change their positions.

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[–] Blackmist 52 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well it's hardly surprising.

It's like preferring a slice of unbuttered slightly stale bread, to a literal dogshit on a stick, being waved around by others with shit all over their faces, knowing that if they eat enough, you'll have to eat double.

[–] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I hear ya. So many would literally eat a shit sandwich if it meant a liberal had to smell their breath.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Every week it’s a different poll with a different result and a different headline. All I’m learning is that these polls are meaningless.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Not all polls are meaningless. But there are a ton of meaningless polls that get an inordinate amount of attention. And I believe the overall goal of that is to make people think they're all meaningless.

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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ITT: right wing Poe's law trolls pretending to be leftists.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 37 points 11 months ago (17 children)

Noooo russianpsyop.org told me young people hate Biden now, don't bother voting!

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago (33 children)

Wait, just yesterday young voters didn’t like Biden? I’m beginning to think that maybe the news is all made up 🤪

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Liking Biden and voting for Biden can be two separate things.

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[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Still true, no one likes Biden. The alternative just happens to be an evil dictator.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

It's a fallacy of polling. They only had two choices here. The correct interpretation is they prefer him over Trump, but do not like him.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (5 children)

If we had ranked ballot this would be my vote:

  1. John Stewart
  2. A tree stump
  3. Biden
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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't particularly prefer Biden, but he's much more preferable than these crazy nazi Republicans running against him

[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 20 points 11 months ago

I can vote with my heart in the primary.

I'll vote to win in the general.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 35 points 11 months ago (34 children)

I prefer getting a finger cut off, as opposed to an arm.

Doesn't mean I want to lose my finger.

[–] Cerothen@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Regardless of how you feel about the candidates the important thing is to actually vote. Going around and saying "well they both suck" doesn't help anyone.

Not voting then getting the greater of two evils from your perspective is your own fault.

Always vote, even if the news or anyone else tells you the candidate you want is a sure thing, vote even if the candidate you don't want seems like a shoe-in.

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Hillary vs trump was the first election in which I could vote, but I refrained on account of not wanting to vote for a giant douche or a shit sandwich. I will never make that mistake again...

I'm not a Biden fan, but I voted for him last election and will eagerly do so again this next cycle.

I also want to point out that the gap between the "lesser of two evils" has turned into the Grand fucking Canyon following trump's attempts to overthrow our government to remain in power, and platforming on literal fascism...

It's a vote for democracy or neonazi fascism. Period.

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[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 32 points 11 months ago (4 children)

In an ideal world, maybe the votes would be weighed by the expected remaining life span of the voter.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That’s cool, as long as they actually follow through and vote when the time comes.

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now actually show up on election day.

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[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

If that's the case, hopefully they get out and vote.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Well well well. Looks like we finally got a poll that wasn't conducted by people calling a boomer's landline at 2pm.

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[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

"Prefer" doing a lot of work here

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 16 points 11 months ago (8 children)

But would they vote? Young Americans historically have low voter turnout. Problem with youths is that we're all talk and no action.

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[–] Adubya@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Biden is a great president and best panacea to the ugliness of current politics. Feel free to not like him though. Nothing against polls but it is still far out so even as a Biden supporter I'm not going to wave this poll around like I'm Dean Phillips.

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