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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 190 points 11 months ago (4 children)

FACT: 90% of divers give up just before finding something really neat in an underwater cave

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 61 points 11 months ago (1 children)

those that find it don't come back because it's just so neat

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Then there's another 1% that aren't even part of the original statistic because they're spawned by the pure awesomeness of what's inside that cave.

[–] Igloojoe@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ooo a cool rock! Worth it!! dies

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Ooo the remains of a diver that found a cool rock! dies

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 8 points 11 months ago

Aside from some fish which evolved with no eyes (which is kind of cool), the only other thing you are likely to find down there is a dead body that everyone decided was too dangerous to recover.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 80 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I've played Subnautica. You don't need to warn me about cave diving.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Are you sure what you're doing is worth it?

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 18 points 11 months ago

I dunno, the open water can be a bit worrisome too.

[–] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

That’s a fact. Salvaging those ship wrecks gave me such anxiety. I died a few times by getting lost.

[–] comrade19@lemmy.world 72 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Theres a good podcasts by stuff you should know on this. A scary thought to me is about kicking up sediment, causing zero visibility and they cant even see their hand in front of their goggles

[–] bmsok@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've done training dives in man made quarries under zero visibility conditions. There's no way in hell I'd go into an actual cave under those conditions.

It was bad enough when you'd almost run into a purposefully placed sculpture or bathtub in that flooded quarry.

You had to do a scavenger hunt to find stuff to pass your training and it was super disorienting.

I don't know if PADI still does that sort of thing or if it was unique to my training center conditions but it was wild.

I'll stick to open water, thank you very much.

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh those sorts of training conditions absolutely still exist. I got my rescue diving certification in an old quarry much like what you said. Really helps make you appreciate the conditions when out in the Caribbean and you have >100 ft of visibility in every direction.

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New fear unlocked

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[–] Aatube@kbin.social 65 points 11 months ago (3 children)

i'm confused as to what qualifies as internet funeral now

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, this place has quickly diluted into "literally any image with text in it."

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 24 points 11 months ago

Internet funeral funeral

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[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing in this cave worth dying for

That's precisely what someone would say if there's stuff worth dying for in there.

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[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

You took it further than I would. I'd listen to the sign these days, but there was absolutely a time that, that sign would have just been a challenge.

Edit: for you grammar nerds. Do I need that comma? It seems like it should be there, but it also seems superfluous at the same time.

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[–] N0body@sh.itjust.works 43 points 11 months ago

If those spelunkers could read, they'd be very upset.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but that's for other people, not me.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right? I haven't died yet!

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 36 points 11 months ago

There’s nothing in this cave worth dying for

There’s nothing outside it to live for. Show me the damn cave

[–] DuckOverload@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

109 billion people have died outside of underwater caves. I'll take my chances.

[–] picnic@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

But what if there really is something valuable, wouldn't they put a sign just like this to prevent people walzing in?

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The best part about underwater cave diving is that you don't have to go!

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You have to ignore many different warnings to even get to the area youre not supposed to be in! First and foremost, humans by design do not breathe water, therefore we have no reason to be under water.

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[–] Beelzebob@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I believe this is one of the caves at Ginnie Springs. If so, I know a guy who died in there. Cave diving is no joke.

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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Okay, they almost had me convinced. But the second to last sentence is just crying out for a treasure.

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[–] Lionel@endlesstalk.org 22 points 11 months ago (8 children)

What’s so dangerous that it was able to kill instructors? Sediment and visibility?

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Basically yes. Once you go inside a cave like this, it gets dark real fast. You can't tell where "up" is and you can't find your way back. So these people often drown or suffocate.

In cave dive training, you learn how not to do that.

[–] fhqwhgads@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's dark so requires torches (more than one as a backup) and very easy to get disoriented. You can easily get lost and run out of air. Risk of being blinded by silt even with a torch, leading to more risk of disoriented and getting lost. If anything goes wrong such as equipment malfunction then you don't have the option of going to the surface as you do in open water (albeit with the risk of a bend). It's often cramped with places to get stuck, snag equipment, or get tangled in your guideline. There are sharp rocks you can hit your head on.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Correct, with no visibility it's very hard to orient yourself

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I reckon it was all the water that killed them

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[–] Skipper_the_Eyechild@lemmings.world 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Farther is the correct word, and has been confused with further for so long (over a hundred years), that they both mean exactly the same thing nowadays, so not sure why people are taking issues with it.

Unless I'm missing something?

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I don't see any comments of people taking issue with it. But words do mean things, and some people like to speak with precision.

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[–] ArcaneGadget@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Am I the only one for whom prefacing a statement with "FACT", makes said statement less credible?

[–] SmoothIsFast@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] rah 14 points 11 months ago

They've convinced me. I'm going in.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (6 children)
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[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Not being a diver at all, what sort of “cave equipment” is this alluding to?

[–] unknown@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Off the top of my head, rope to put down Gide lines in case you get silted out so you have something to follow to get out.

Also extra everything, if your open water diving and you run out of air (or other critial equipment failure) you can roll the dice on the bends by going straight to the surface, not so with cave diving; your just going to drown.

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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I'm not a caver or a diver, but I've read a few stories about cave diving. A big one is a cable on a retracting reel. Caves which are frequently explored will have guide cables bolted along the walls for long stretches. You snap your cable onto these and then use it as a leash back to the guide. This allows you to explore off a certain distance without getting lost. You can always follow your own line back to the guide, and follow the guide back out. In an "unimproved" cave, you'd presumably want lots of extra line to build your own guides.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

torches, iron pickage, some cooked beef, iron armour, 16 logs

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[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Well, I'm convinced.

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