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Don't drink fant drinks when you drive!

Fanta: ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ

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[โ€“] Ethanol@pawb.social 44 points 11 months ago (4 children)

According to wiktionary infant comes from the Latin word infans, meaning "unable to speak". The term fans means "to speak".

Not sure if your Fanta can speak though :P

[โ€“] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 11 months ago

Which is why we have "infantry." Soldiers who don't speak and follow orders

[โ€“] Gilles_D@feddit.de 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

As a side note here, Fanta was derived from the German word โ€žFantasieโ€œ. I donโ€™t think it needs translating.

[โ€“] lugal@sopuli.xyz 16 points 11 months ago

Side note on the side note: Fanta was invented in nazi Germany because they couldn't import all the ingredients for Cola

[โ€“] z500@startrek.website 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง fantasy
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น fantasia
๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท fantaisie
๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฟ fantazie
๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฐ fantazia
๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ั„ะฐะฝั‚ะฐะทะธั
๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช FANTASIE

[โ€“] Gilles_D@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago
[โ€“] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, a reference to the thousand year dream /s

[โ€“] LolaCat@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So it wouldnโ€™t be technically wrong to refer to mute people as infants right? /s

[โ€“] SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Probably falls into the same or similar category as calling them dumb, ones open a time an acceptable word to call them, but not really today. You know unless you are looking to insult them for being mute.

[โ€“] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right. The term that would probably fit the context would be "infantile", which again has negative connotations.

English has a long history of descriptors of intellectual deficiencies becoming contemporary insults then terms to be avoided because of that insensitive use, then the use continuing until everyone's kinda desensitized to it but now it can't be used in the original context.

See also: idiot, imbecile, moron, etc.

Currently going through that process: "retarded".

[โ€“] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Happens in most languages.

Also, many languages have a link between deafness and lacking intelligence, e.g. dumb meaning "not able to speak" and "not intelligent".

In general, being sensitive to people with disabilities (both physical and mental) is a rather young concept, hence anything that would make someone not be able to be part of society is often also an insult.

That's also why e.g. terms linked deafness/muteness are often an insult to someone's intelligence, while e.g. terms linked to blindness are not. Blind people might be unable to perform some things seeing people are able to, but blindness doesn't necessarily limit someone's ability to be part of a society unaccomodating to people with disabilities.

[โ€“] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Might change your thoughts on blindness as an insult by attending a sporting event where a ref or ump makes a questionable call...but broadly speaking, I think your comment is definitely a worthwhile contribution.

[โ€“] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

We're fans, yo!

[โ€“] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

[โ€“] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

You mean, what am I fanting about?

[โ€“] pao@feddit.de 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If infancy is childhood, is adulthood fancy?

[โ€“] Pirasp@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It sure as shit doesn't feel fancy

[โ€“] ripcord@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Try it again, but with your pinky out.

[โ€“] CarlsIII@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Both of those are below elefants

[โ€“] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Looks like it means unable + to speak. As in โ€œThis human is so young he canโ€™t talk yet.โ€

https://www.etymonline.com/word/infant

[โ€“] Hack3900@lemy.lol 5 points 11 months ago

If your drink is talking you should already not be driving

[โ€“] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago
[โ€“] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The in is not a prefix here. That's just how the word is spelled.

[โ€“] squaresinger@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

Actually, it is.

It derives from Latin infans where "in-" is a negation prefix and "fans" is the present participle form of "for", which translates to "to speak".

So an infant is a non-speaker (too small to speak).

But my opener was of course a joke, where I purpously misunderstood what "fant" is derived of, by claiming that "fant" must be the opposite of a child, thus an adult.

There are tons of Latin words in the English language and many of them only survived in English in their compounded form (e.g. "in-fant", where no other version of the actual verb in there survived, except the negated form).

Often the parts of these Latin root words have no meaning at all anymore in English, so that people don't notice that they are actually using compound words and also the original meaning of the word is forgotten.

Not a lot of people would associate "infant" with "hearing".